They are going through the proper, official procedure, the legal route, just because they fail does not suddenly make them illegal.
That's like asking a woman if they will have sex with you, but because you are ugly and have no chance, the fact you asked makes you liable for criminal charges and is illegal. I hope even you can see the complete failure of logic that an unsuccessful application gives you illegal status.
Again, asking and then being refused does not make you illegal. The only illegal migrants are the ones not going through the proper, official procedure, and that's about 1800 a year. I fully agree that we should be sending failed applicants back, and any that return are then illegal migrants, but currently that total is 1.
(, Fri 24 Oct 2025, 16:31, Reply)
Arriving on a small boat after being smuggled across the Channel is proper, official procedure, is it?
Righto, then...
(, Fri 24 Oct 2025, 16:58, Reply)
Because of International law, specifically the 1951 Refugee Convention, which protects refugees regardless of how they arrive.
In practice, this means:
You can arrive by boat, plane, land
You can arrive without documents
You can't be prosecuted simply for the manner of your arrival
The Convention recognizes that people fleeing persecution often have no choice but to breach immigration rules to reach safety.
So "Arriving on a small boat after being smuggled across the Channel is proper, official procedure" according to international law.
(, Fri 24 Oct 2025, 20:41, Reply)
It may offer you certain protections under the refugee act, but those protections are there in order to protect the legitimate refugees/asylum seekers and not people trying to enter the country illegitimately.
Look, you know as well as I do that the vast majority of people arriving by small boat aren't making a bee line for the nearest immigration office or border control point. You're simply treading water with your gotchas and 'yes, buts', because you're utterly unwilling to accept that you're wrong on this one.
(, Sat 25 Oct 2025, 6:41, Reply)
I'll accept your viewpoint if you can at least do the same
(, Sat 25 Oct 2025, 11:40, Reply)