Well I think you have shown the problem here.
You consider it all Real vs. Make Believe but it isn't.
It is known versus unknown.
( , Thu 18 Sep 2008, 13:29, Share, Reply)
You consider it all Real vs. Make Believe but it isn't.
It is known versus unknown.
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My definition of make-believe
Anything which cannot be explained or theorised by application of scientific rigour.
This stuff about departing souls isn't theoretical science you know, it's just an idea with no basis in fact whatsoever. Show me a scientist with a working theory of the existence of a soul, and I'll show you faith in disguise.
Known vs Unknown is quite a different matter. Should we pursue knowledge? Absolutely. Should it be based on testable theories? Absolutely. Should we test every theory which otherwise explains away the unknown? Perhaps not... a pale bloke down the road from me claims to be a vampire. I'm pretty sure he isn't one, but I don't think I need to prove it conclusively by experiment.
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Anything which cannot be explained or theorised by application of scientific rigour.
This stuff about departing souls isn't theoretical science you know, it's just an idea with no basis in fact whatsoever. Show me a scientist with a working theory of the existence of a soul, and I'll show you faith in disguise.
Known vs Unknown is quite a different matter. Should we pursue knowledge? Absolutely. Should it be based on testable theories? Absolutely. Should we test every theory which otherwise explains away the unknown? Perhaps not... a pale bloke down the road from me claims to be a vampire. I'm pretty sure he isn't one, but I don't think I need to prove it conclusively by experiment.
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Can I just make sure I understand you correctly here then?
By your reasoning, up until whenever it was, anything smaller than the atom was make believe? But at the moment it was seen that an atom is made up of even smaller parts, it travelled from the ethereal into the real world? Or do you believe that we have perfected Science?
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By your reasoning, up until whenever it was, anything smaller than the atom was make believe? But at the moment it was seen that an atom is made up of even smaller parts, it travelled from the ethereal into the real world? Or do you believe that we have perfected Science?
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No, you misunderstood
Theorising that atoms are made of smaller components was not only possible, but documented long before it could be proven. There was a good basis for a theory and it received the proper attention.
What basis is there to theorise the existence of a soul via the medium of 'near-death experience'? Individual testimony? Talk about an unreliable witness... you must be kidding me.
Why bother trying to prove the soul exists, or not? It's just faith. It has no basis in science at all.
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Theorising that atoms are made of smaller components was not only possible, but documented long before it could be proven. There was a good basis for a theory and it received the proper attention.
What basis is there to theorise the existence of a soul via the medium of 'near-death experience'? Individual testimony? Talk about an unreliable witness... you must be kidding me.
Why bother trying to prove the soul exists, or not? It's just faith. It has no basis in science at all.
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I myself do not know what benefit could be gained
from discovering there is a soul.
However, I am not Stephen Hawking, or Richard Dawkins or whoever.
At the same time, I don't know why we need to know whether or not the Higgs Boson exists to be honest. However, just because I do not understand as well as more educated people, doesn't mean that I am against them searching. To be honest, my life would not change one way or the other if it were proven or disproved that people have souls. But I will not tell people what to search for and what not to!
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from discovering there is a soul.
However, I am not Stephen Hawking, or Richard Dawkins or whoever.
At the same time, I don't know why we need to know whether or not the Higgs Boson exists to be honest. However, just because I do not understand as well as more educated people, doesn't mean that I am against them searching. To be honest, my life would not change one way or the other if it were proven or disproved that people have souls. But I will not tell people what to search for and what not to!
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