Rand are a high level think tank btw. What they say goes. They're pushing for a war with either China or Russia to stimulate the economy. Because war is good for business.
www.rand.org/
Sources:
Military Forum;
www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=145167
For anyone that can read Chinese or has contacts in China;
news.ifeng.com/mil/4/200810/1029_342_851523.shtml
news.sohu.com/20081030/n260330741.shtml
So basically, we're heading towards WW3, which sucks..if you think about it.
(, Fri 31 Oct 2008, 22:57, Reply)
I'm having trouble seeing the connections you're making, brother.
(, Fri 31 Oct 2008, 23:06, Reply)
Mostly the part about the RAND corp being implicated in suggesting an illegal war against a powerful nation -I can see no evidence for it in the links you have provided, it appears to be hearsay and conjecture.
This also ignores the fact that the only nation described that can be suggested to be free of a nuclear deterrent is Japan, probably the most difficult nation to come up with a remotely convincing case for invasion, being a staunch ally of America since WWII.
Any invasion of a nuclear power is political (and quite possibly literal) suicide. Something I doubt such a powerful and well funded think tank would suggest.
(, Fri 31 Oct 2008, 23:25, Reply)
This is all over the mainstream media in China, unless you have a contact in China or you can read Chinese this hard to verify, I accept that. I believe they WANT the Chinese to know what's coming to spread panic, which is working.
Also you have to know the history of RAND, also they mention Japan, but I see them attacking China/Russia. They wont attack Japan.
Obama is pushing for a 'national service' he has been for quite some time. I say Obama, he says what Zbigniew Brzezinski tells him to say. I mentioned this earlier today when I was watching Sky News in the early hours and they cut to adverts the MOMENT he mentioned 'national service'.
Also Biden, Powell and Albright have openly said that early next year Obama will be faced with a huge international crisis. Powell even states a specific date. Check the stuff I've put on links.
Ed: Here's one
www.b3ta.com/links/More_Colin_Powell_on_Meet_the_Press_10_19_2008
Plus you need to have read the Trilateral Commission and Council on Foreign Relations articles about 'population control'.
Yes, it is suicide. That's what they want.
Yes, I sound like a paranoid lunatic.
(, Fri 31 Oct 2008, 23:38, Reply)
There are very few conspiracies!!
Stuff just happens sometimes and people who can't bear the thought of random occurences construct order (conspiracy theories) to make sense of them!!
Aaaargh!! Enough!! The sky is NOT going to fall on our heads!!!
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 0:27, Reply)
this may not mean it's convincing*
* I propose this for understatement of the week.
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 0:39, Reply)
The article on prisonplanet has been translated from the Chinese websites.
This is all over the mainstream media in China, unless you have a contact in China or you can read Chinese this hard to verify, I accept that.
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 0:43, Reply)
does not mean anything like what it means in the "free" (for lack of a better word) world, right?
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 0:46, Reply)
I know how censored the internet and mass media is in China.
Which asks the question, why would this be allowed to slip through the net?
Because they want the Chinese to piss themselves with fear. You need to realise that these people always tell you what's coming.
I don't speak Chinese, I don't know anyone in China. But apparently it's all over the news there.
If anyone can disprove any of this, please let us all know.
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 1:03, Reply)
"I know how censored the internet and mass media is in China.
Which asks the question, why would this be allowed to slip through the net?"
Please take a good look at the situation and ask again: who's going to gain from people fearing the US? is it:
A) The Chinese government (and their massive influence on their media)
B) ???????
C) Profit
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 1:08, Reply)
Check out prisonplanet, and all the stuff I've posted on /links.
Call me a cunt, a lunatic. I don't care, gaz me if you or anyone has any questions.
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 1:18, Reply)
I just think you're WAY too eager to hear what you want to hear.
a short rebuttal to every "conspiracy" link you've posted over the last year:
1. people on the whole do NOT want to kill each other
2. even if they do want to, they generally have reasons they consider good.
3. fear of the "other" and selfishness is what makes the world a worse place. not some anthromorphic "evil".
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 1:30, Reply)
www.prisonplanet.com/china-and-russia-hint-at-dropping-us-dollar.html
en.rian.ru/analysis/20081030/118047851.html
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 1:51, Reply)
I don't feel obliged to follow your links.
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 2:03, Reply)
though actual thinking would be better
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 2:15, Reply)
and I can verify this is most definately NOT all over the mainstream media here.
also, people should get a bit more awareness of how and why the media is censored in China. Take a look from this side of the fence, and things look a whole lot different from what the western media leads us to believe.
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 5:18, Reply)
or some other powerful outfit . . . only to find out that it's good for absolutlely . . . nothin' !
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 0:06, Reply)
Either way, japes for all.
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 0:12, Reply)
Japan doesn't even have an army, how would they ever be be made out to be bad guys?
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 1:23, Reply)
even dear old Goaty would laugh at this tosh.
How about we meet here again in one year, and you can tell us all how the Masons decided to delay WWIII so as to give the reptilian royal family time to burrow into the ground for safety from nuclear armageddon.
You, sir, are a nonsense.
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 3:48, Reply)
Doesn't make any sense. Think about it man.
Consider the reliability of the source.
Consider if it were true, who the target could be, really.
Consider how long it takes to plan a war, to invent a reason, drum up public support, organise troops and weapons - it took 10 years to justify attacking Iraq. The recession will be over in a year or two.
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 10:17, Reply)
I mean, it all fits.
(, Sat 1 Nov 2008, 11:56, Reply)