is precisely what i mean. it uses it's own set of values to attempt to dis-prove someone elses set of values. ultimately working at cross-purposes.
(, Tue 3 Mar 2009, 11:02, Reply)
Moral outrage won't work to prove the atheists' point. However, it does work against the kind of fundie who thinks - mistakenly - that you need god for morality, and that Christian (or Islamic, or whatever) morality is the same as morality period - and it works by showing that Christian (or Islamic, or whatever) morality, interpreted strictly, is counterintuitive. So if you want to keep your intuitions, then you have a problem.
Remarkably few mainstream believers, I've found, will bite the bullet and ditch their intuitions. They prefer to think that their god agrees with them, rather than the other way around.
(, Tue 3 Mar 2009, 11:06, Reply)