Thanks for the link (sort of)
spent the last 15 mins tracking the paper down and researching what Apeiron is (as a journal. It isn't main stream, I'm pretty sure there will be further debate about the validity of the work, but it's still interesting and exciting stuff :-)
Where is Enzyme? He does philosophy, I want to know what he thinks.
Anywho: personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/staff/jay.kennedy/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apeiron_%28journal%29
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Hellzapoppin, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 9:24,
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Oh, hai!
Yup: I'm a philosopher, and a philosopher at the University of Manchester to boot, so I share an institution with this guy. I'll check it out if I get the chance: I'm a touch busy at the moment.
My initial hunch is that any talk of a Plato Code is - as Smale says up ^there^ - distinctly iffy...
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Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 9:56,
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:-D
I'm going to look at the paper to see what his specific claims are and what the implications are.
My impression of Apeiron as a publisher is a bit dodgy, but it will be fun to see if there is anything it what he says. Reply here or wizz me a pm if you get 5! Cheers!
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Hellzapoppin, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 10:16,
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I read one of the PDFs
(the one with picures, I thought it might be simpler). Without spending more time understanding his evidence I'd say his decision of what is 'harmonic' and 'discordant' in the writing is subjective. His location of speeches within twelfths of the text also looks suspicious, since he includes bits of non-speech to pad it out. It's not clear to me whether he's using strict line-counting or not. Even if he is, it looks very much as if he doesn't define the start and end clearly, meaning it could just be that Plato wrote 10 speeches with a prologue and an epilogue. Either way, it's hardly a code hiding something else. If he's right then Plato just found a handy form to structure his writing around. I think his quarter-note theory is baseless, and introducing the golden mean seems a bit arbitrary... So I'm not impressed.
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You read a lot more than I did!
It's a shame though, it would have been fun to have an actual simple code hidden in his writing. A bit like finding a brilliant game that has the konami code secretly placed in for a secret message. Having said that I don't see why it would have taken all this time to discover an ancient konami code that Plato made.
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Hellzapoppin, Tue 29 Jun 2010, 11:05,
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