What hours do "late bars" open until? well it being the 2:00 am? (it said p.m.) being reduced to 1: a.m. (again it said p.m.) Is there any extra proliferation in crime?
Not being disagreeble, its just that normal pubs shut between 11-12 mostly, late bars insinuates that you mean you would like them open later, depending on bars being open later than that, depends on when you work I guess, or possibly how prepared you are if you want a drink when you finish. Not dissing you, or your argument about jobs. Just want to know the pros and cons, also 1 am seems like quite a reasonable shut off, I can imagine with such a small amount of custom on a weekday after 12 they might lose money from licensing, insurance, police, security, staff, electric and maintenance costs. Not being animonius, but really? Please give me the pros and cons.
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Interesting comments too, it seems there is already a law in place, not that I'm a stickler for the law..
Still some interesting comment.
Wiola Wioleta · NUI,Galway
It is incredible how much students can drink on nights out and of course the business will suffer a little if the places get closed earlier! But I believe the galway super intendants decision was primarily based on safety of galway people at night, the later the places are opened the more ridiculously drunk people there are late at nights out on the streets. I don't find it amusing to see so many young people absolutely wasted messing around and personally I approve super intendants decision, since people in galway drink so much I doubt the losses will be that big anyways... -.-
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Colm MacEoin · Inverin
But surely if that becomes the new closing time people will simply start drinking an hour earlier and treat it the same way? Pubs and clubs being closed an hour early doesn't mean people will get less drunk it'll mean they'll be just as drunk but an hour earlier. Personally I think the later the better at least that will mean there are less people out for them to interact with.
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Brendan Quinn · Institute of Technology, Tralee
The Gardai have turned a blind eye to this particular law which has been around for years, so why enforce it now?
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Dave Kilgarriff · National University of Ireland, Galway
New superintendent in town. It's a woman...
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Daniel Hartnett · Subscribe · National University of Ireland, Galway
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Aodhan Kelly · IT Carlow
In the last while Galway has received a lot of bad press most notably the Rag Week's for the colleges.
Is it not a little suspicious that this order goes in mere weeks before the start of a new term for the colleges.
The idea that you would rather have people in bed a hour earlier than arrest and teach overly drunk people(students or Otherwise).That a jail cell is indeed cold, is absolutely laughable.
Make some arrests do your job's gardai and let those of us who drink and behave responsibly have our pints in peace before they tax that to death as well.
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David Walsh · NUIG
Edit the Petition, 1am to 2am it should read, not PM..(As Eoin stated below).
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Edward Mc Dermott · Works at European Federation of Psychology Students' Associations (EFPSA)
Where can I find an article about this?
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Edward Mc Dermott · Works at European Federation of Psychology Students' Associations (EFPSA)
From reading this article it sounds like they are enforcing the law that is already in place. Most nightclubs will have had their license extended to serve until 1am - so they are not closing at 1 just stopping serving. Your petition is slightly misleading. I believe that opening hours should be extended to match those on the continent, but in this case it is just the gardai doing their job. www.galwaynews.ie/27251-garda%C3%AD-call-time-city-bars’-late-night-drinks
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Adrian Adrohan Hanley · Subscribe · Works at Dj - Producer and Remixer
Why are they only enforcing it now though? Why is it not implemented across the country!? I don't think the petition is misleading!? It's simply a petition against the early closing of pubs and clubs.
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Edward Mc Dermott · Works at European Federation of Psychology Students' Associations (EFPSA)
But it is not the Gardai that is the problem really. If you are petitioning to change the law then yes that's great, but I am seeing this as a petition against the Gardai just enforcing that law.
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Brendan Quinn · Institute of Technology, Tralee
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skeltonator Needs some new daps., Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:26,
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You're not being disagreeable at all! Perfectly valid points.
And yes, I noticed the pm/am mix up myself... The suggested law will cover all late bars and night clubs in the city from Sunday to Thursday. A "late bar" is a bar that serves until 2am, and essentially operates as an alternative to those who do not wish to frequent your traditional night club. A group of which I am a member, as are many others :)
Your assumption that these days would present the pubs and clubs with a "small amount of custom" is one that could be shared by a lot of people. However, it is not the case. Galway is a city that depends hugely on its tourism and entertainment income... For example, each July there are three festivals running in the city. They bring enormous amounts of people to the city, and they bring money to the bars. Cut out one hour of this steady income out of all tills across the city and that amounts to a LOT of money lost. However, it's not just in July.
Galway is a student city. It is home to three third level institutions and from September to May a sizeable percentage of the city's population is comprised of students. And when do students go out? During the week... Thursday night often being the busiest night of the week, the dedicated student night. Again, one hour cut out of every night's income is a lot of money needlessly lost.
As for any proliferation in crime? In a word, no. Galway is a very safe place to go out in, and anybody suggesting cutting the hour is in the interests of safety would be guilty of hype and fear mongering. And as for the extra costs you mentioned - licensing, insurance, security, staff, electric and maintenance - on a busy night the extra hour's business would cover the extra hour's costs. Obviously, on a slow night, costs may not be covered... But at least leave it to the discretion of the premises owner to close if he or she feels it financially sensible. Don't enforce closure with some draconian nonsense!
Hope that cleared some things up for ya :)
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OK, thank you, I do know of certain urbanised areas that do suffer as a result of late night weekday drinking. I do however no little about Galway.
If indeed it's premises have a massive reliance on the tourist, student and entertainment industry it is a given that some jobs will rely upon it. Having lived in major cities, I know that you can always find somewhere for a drink, otherwise you keep some in. I'm not going to sign the petition, but I am not against it. Sorry i'm being a fucking prick and sitting on the fence. I do however find your previous comment alot more convincing than the petitions manifesto, stick it up there. I am probably being a hippocrite here, and coming across as such, but fuck it, I don't have any qualms about what you are doing, can't ratify it in my conciensce though. Good luck.
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