Most people really?
Putting aside the shagging whilst pissed and stoned because that's not what he's accused of.
I've never had a second pop and any woman whilst they were out of it.
Let alone one i've just met.
I bust a condom I stop and put a new one on.
Wearing it for a reason.
Maybe she doesn't want some guys spunk up her?
So I for one am not a rapist.
If this was just some tourist that overstepped the bounds whilst on holiday he wouldn't get any support.
But because he's Saint bloody Julian it's all ok.
He didn't do it and if he did those women are just getting upset over nothing.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 20:14,
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Hang on, hang on...
We don't know what happened and maybe never will. We don't know whether she was asleep and he tiptoed in and thought "I'll have another crack at that", rubbed his hands together in glee and jumped on or whether they both woke up in the throes of passion which she later regretted. I won't defend the chap, whoever he is, but I'm not going to polish my pitchfork until I've seen some evidence. Till then it is a few interesting articles and (mostly) opinion pieces.
(, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 20:36, Reply)
He should really
face up to a court case and clear his name or face the charges I feel.
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 20:40,
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Oh, I agree.
There's got to be some way of this happening.
Why can't he stand trial for it over here? Rape is rape, after all, and we would try him the same and lock him up the same if guilty.
(, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 20:45, Reply)
Though if what I said above about just being wanted for questioning is true,
there wouldn't be a trial about it anyway. The girls would disappear after the questioning, as would Assange.
(, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 20:46, Reply)
Because the victims were Swedish
and it took place in Sweden. They have every right to hold any trial there.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 21:08,
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^this
No country in the EU can deport someone to another country where they could potentially face the death penalty anyway, so he's not going to find himself on a plane to the United States
In the meantime, two women have made legal accusations of sexual misconduct by him, on them, that have every right to be addressed by a court of law in the country where it occurred.
He is now hiding behind conspiracy theories to not take his sexual conduct on the chin and deal with it, and either clear his name, or be exposed for sexual misconduct. You never know, he might actually be guilty of rape or one of the charges, it's not entirely beyond the bounds of possibility.
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Jahled Three shades of black, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 21:28,
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More than this
The longer he stays in hiding and the more extreme the lengths he goes to to avoid a trial make me more suspicious that he's actually concerned there's a case to answer.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 21:49,
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And this is how i'm now viewing what the guy's up to
Accusations of rape or sexual misconduct won't have been levelled lightly for a guy in his obvious predicament; especially not by former fans of what he's been doing. If they were two plants all along from the beginning, a court of law somewhere like Sweden would probably be one the best places on earth to expose this. He has sat himself in the middle of the cauldron, shit like this was always on the cards.
Even if this has all been not much more than a case of shagging the fans, and the disgruntled consequence when his attention moved on, these are still extremely serious accusations I personally would want to have off my back at the earliest opportunity.
Ultimately, he has himself to blame for all this; wikileaks is an extremely clumsy and irresponsible way of exposing stolen information as it does. And not everything it exposes, in the manor it does, is actually beneficial to wider public knowledge.
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Jahled Three shades of black, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 22:09,
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there has now been two confirmations that their has been a secret arrest inditement made out for him.
the leaked Stratfor emails, and recently an Australian intelligence confirmation www.theage.com.au/national/us-in-pursuit-of-assange-cables-reveal-20120817-24e8u.html . Given that the Swedish Government has refused to confirm that they won't extradite him, something they could easily do in a simple statement, his fears of extradition to the US seem quite reasonable.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 22:11,
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