You are right in the sense
that verbal 'ok, we can have sex now' very rarely happens. However, is that a defense? 'She didn't say no'. Oh that's OK then.
Even if I had sex with someone and took then back to my house and went to bed, I would still defend my right to say they had non-consensual sex with me while I was asleep.
You cannot, CANNOT take anything for granted when it comes to how you feel about fucking or being fucked.
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 22:17,
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in sweden you can't, it seems, and that a shame in my opinion
in England they've sensibly included the "reasonable belief" element into the law. Im not saying the rape law is perfect, and there are huge problems with how rape accusers are treated in the the UK, but this shouldn't be a stick to beat people who question assanges conviction over the head with or say that all rape accusations are of equal merit whatever the circumstances
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 22:34,
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This
and any 'verbal consent' argument is bollocks, you both know if you want to shag, you don't need some kind of verbal confirmation to enforce this
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Jahled Three shades of black, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 22:35,
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This is one of the most contentious points of law there is at the moment.
I have to agree with you, Herbs, if you're asleep you cannot consent to an act you're not aware of being initiated. I don't just start having sex with my wife because I feel like it, I wake her up, get told to 'fuck off, it's three in the morning!' then go back to sleep.
But Galloway needs to shut up and die. Akin, too.
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NooShmoo It's a fantazmagorical pile of ultra bollocks, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 22:44,
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yes, but when you say "wake her up" i bet you don't turn the lights on and wait til she's fully awake and say "I would like to have sex, is it ok"
like me, you probably give her squeeze and see how she physically responds, judging by her body language if she awake enought and into it enough before you continue. You wouldn't rush straight to fucking, but you wouldn't do the lights thing either. In sweden, you're a rapist
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 20 Aug 2012, 22:58,
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