i can't say what i'd like to about that
as it's far too ranty
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 30 Aug 2010, 19:31, 1 reply)

Go on...

(TheSnark oh, c'mon, like you didn't see me coming, Mon 30 Aug 2010, 20:19, closed)

no
as a former fatso, it might be a tad hypocritical
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 30 Aug 2010, 20:24, closed)

Gaz ahoy.
Speak from experience. It means more than any combined shit we can come up with.
(TheSnark oh, c'mon, like you didn't see me coming, Mon 30 Aug 2010, 20:37, closed)

oh, ok
obesity shouldn't be classed as a disability, unless it's caused by underlying medical problems. giving disabled status to obese people is simply validating their lifestyle and giving them the green light to get even fatter. it's as if they're being rewarded for being fat, which is just ridiculous, not to mention dangerous. if i'd been mollycoddled like that when i was fat, i'd probably be dead by now. in england, the NHS are now trying to stop gastric band and gastric bypass surgery, claiming that people aren't even trying to lose weight, as they know they can have an operation to do it for them.
bollocks.
surgery is never the easy option, trust me. before you can have it done, you have to undergo a liver reduction diet, 2 weeks of sheer hell, where food is a distant dream. i lost over 2 stones in those 2 weeks, that's how drastic it is. many people don't even get that far but, if they do, they'd better stick to it, because the surgeon can tell if you haven't. they make it very clear that if they discover you haven't stuck to the liver diet, they'll sew you up, send you home and take your name off the list.
the operation itself, despite now being keyhole surgery, is dangerous, especially to someone large enough to qualify for it(b.m.i of 50+).
don't get me wrong, i'm not saying i'm perfect or anything. however, if i had to, i would drag my fat arse off the couch and do what needed to be done, be it housework, shopping, whatever. i tried, just not hard enough.
as i said before, surgery is never the easy option. for ten years, i deluded myself with the belief that i would "eventually" lose the weight myself. do you know what changed my mind? a car crash. i was too fucking fat for the seatbelt to fit me and i hit the windscreen, leaving me with quite a scar. if we were going any faster, i could easily have died.
i'm not sure what i'm trying to say here, i just know that giving fat people special treatment won't help them, just like bullying them won't. a delicate touch and a healthy dose of common sense and reality may, however, work.
( Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Mon 30 Aug 2010, 21:09, closed)