Your own kids must be thoroughly saintly....
... if you have never had any of those issues yourself.

The child who learns to order their own meal will then perhaps not be one of the very many adults who reach the front of the queue without knowing what they want, or even what is available. Similarly, carrying our kids is always the easy way out, but they need to learn how to behave in different situations and to be self-sufficient. Unfortunately, that can't be done without making mistakes.

And ignoring them when they are being rude and not waiting for the adults to finish speaking is one of the best ways to teach them that the world is not at their instant call.

It is unfortunate that you have to be present when these lessons are being learned but once upon a time it was you learning them and I find it incredible that you never needed to teach them to your own kids.
( Ugi , it's a game of give and cake, Thu 4 Oct 2012, 18:13, 3 replies)

You've saved me writing it.
(and almost certainly did it better too.)
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Thu 4 Oct 2012, 19:24, closed)

I don't get any sort of impression that he ever learned the basic lessons of childhood.

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Thu 4 Oct 2012, 19:34, closed)

I disagree.
Teaching your kids not to be rude is the very least you can do for them. I let them make their own decisions, but had them decide before we got to the front of the queue. I taught them to plan ahead.

Ignoring a child is never acceptable. If they interrupted me I would tell them not to do so, and that I would get to them when I could. As I mentioned, I then made sure that I did so- as soon as I was done with whatever I had to pay attention to I would say "Okay, now what were you trying to say before?" And they would tell me, and I would deal with it then.

I taught them to deal with the world as it truly is, where good manners make a real difference and being an inconsiderate twat will make others hate you. Apparently your parents didn't do the same for you, going by your commentary.
( The Resident Loon Not a demographic. Do not measure., Thu 4 Oct 2012, 23:47, closed)

It seems to work.
You will find that ignoring misbehavior is a very strongly advocated technique.

My children are quite small still but are typically very polite because they have been taught| to be so. I am amazed that yours learned that without needing such teaching in real life situations. At four my daughter can decide and order for herself in a restaurant, because she has practiced doing so. If I always speak for her she will not get that practice. I'm not at all sure you can learn any other way.
( Ugi , it's a game of give and cake, Fri 5 Oct 2012, 11:09, closed)

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 5 Oct 2012, 18:56, closed)