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This is a question Will you go out with me?

"Bloody Kraut, a" asks, "How did you get your current flame to go out with you? If they turned you down, how bad was it?"

Was it all romantic? Or were the beer goggles particularly strong that night?

(, Thu 28 Aug 2008, 17:32)
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Those are non-arguments
Zzz... do I really have to waste my time replying to this non-logic?

1) To Itsallsugar, who said "Some of the loveliest people smoke you know".
You're quite right. I never said otherwise. One of my best friends smokes. And with regards to your comment that the smoker might have been stereoroid's soulmate, that just goes to show that you, also, don't get it. How could he possibly have a soulmate whom he couldn't stand to be close to? (BTW, I don't have to kiss the aforementioned friend, so...!)

2) Madam Marlboro, who said: "All football fans are thugs who like fighting"
Your statement would have held water if I had said that all smokers are inconsiderate. But I didn't. Sure, many smokers ARE considerate and do care about the senses of non-smokers. You might be one of them. If you are, then that's great. But that doesn't change the fact that millions of other smokers are exactly as I described. Last year I was waiting for a bus, and nearby there was a mother and a baby in a pushchair. Along came this man, who went and stood right next to them, and lit his cancer stick without a single word being said. The sight of it repelled me.
With regards to your comments on "second hand smoke" - well that's just completely missing the point, again. Let's just suppose that it was conclusively proven that second-hand smoke did you no harm whatsoever. That still would not change the fact that it smells fouler than anything else I have ever smelled.
Regarding the drunk people who have assaulted you, I'm very sorry to hear that. Those people were arseholes. I'm not in favour of people getting drunk out of their minds. My comparison with alcohol was merely to say that the actual act of drinking alcohol in itself does not do any harm to anyone else. If I sit next to someone drinking one glass of wine (without getting drunk) then it does not affect me. But if I'm next to a smoker, I am physically forced to move away because the stench is so repellant.

3) To Duke Of Belmsford:
Indeed - where did anyone say that smoking makes you a bad person? I certaily didn't say that. This is what I meant by non-logic.

Anyway - here's my take on the situation, as I wrote at the time the indoor ban came in last year:
http://www.eurosong.net/smokingban (no, it's not the horses one).

Sorry for the rant - but as you can see, this issue affects me deeply. My own personal quality of life would be immeasurably improved if tobacco were to be made extinct.
(, Sat 30 Aug 2008, 21:40, Reply)

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