i see your thinking
but the vast majority of those kids that are made do do all that PE stuff simply hate it. And then go on to hate any exercise at all. Oh and build the internet, write novels, paint great works of art etc. Or of course they learn they can skive and thus fuck their education up because some dick head thinks it'll do them good to run around a bloody field in the rain.

I'm a tutor at college and i can honestly say we try to repair a lot of the damage done to kids love of learning that all that forced "it'll do you good" aspect of school knackers right up.

I hated PE, lets not beat about the bush, but not because i was rubbish or unfit (although i wasn't great at ball games in general due to the bastards i was surrounded by) but because team games and running are what stupid people do who can't get the gumption together to do something better. I walked miles, climbed harder than my age would suggest at the time, canoed for hours all weekend and could run 4 miles stright up the hill without losing breath. Still hated games and the people who 'taught' it (taught = shouting. never one lesson, just shouting. I know a physio who swears most of his work is down to games teachers irrepairably damaging growing bodies)

So, with all that in mind. I still fucking hate PE teachers.
(DreddPirateBob has watched every scifi film ever on, Fri 20 Nov 2009, 7:25, 1 reply)

I don't usually reply
but I really have to respond to your assertion that "team games and running are what stupid people do who can't get the gumption together to do something better". I enjoy team games and I am not stupid. I regularly play netball for my university team, because being part of a team is exciting and empowering, and because it is a good way to keep fit. I could go jogging or canoeing by myself, or I could encorporate a social aspect into my sports regime.
So please don't judge everyone by your own experience and opinion of team games. Some people enjoy doing them.
(Katurian, Fri 20 Nov 2009, 11:52, closed)

^^ Seconded
In my last job, I worked with a ton of people who did Hockey or Netball for fun - in their 30s and possibly beyond! They were all lovely, intelligent people too: rare for an office, I must say.

I think it's unfair that people who make an effort are made to feel bad if they don't do well, but that's true of all of school. I'm not advocating the "aww didums" approach to education, but less personal insulting for effort for people with lesser abilities would be good, and more constructive criticism to help them improve.
(mmmm curry doesn't really understand this sig lark, Fri 20 Nov 2009, 12:28, closed)

Thirded,
what a load of ignorant shite. I'm very happy to do plenty of activities on my own, but when it comes to sport competitive games are where its at. If you asked me to run up a fucking hill by myself I get bored and don't push myself. If you ask me to put an oval ball under my arm and try and run past 15 other guys I'll leave my lungs on the field and get a sense of achievement out of it.

Lets throw another ignorant generalisation out there: those who enjoy solo sports are just anti-social wankers who can't interact meaningfully with others. Yup, easily done yet totally wrong.
(The man with the flan swashed his buckle on, Fri 20 Nov 2009, 14:23, closed)

I don't do team games
I am a mountain biker, mountaineer, rock climber, Hill walker and former instructor for the above. I hated ball sports at school, I hated Gymnastics and I really hated trampoline. The first opportunity I got to do Adventure sports blew me away and I really got into it. However, I had to get my fitness up which meant going to the gym, running and actually doing stuff.

Working in a school environment allowed me to see first hand that some kids really are utterly wet, made so by over protective parents who will not allow them to grow up. The two lads I saw were both Year 8 and both got hurt, one seriously and one not so. The serious one had a Dad who was too hard and the wet lad had parents who were too soft.

The PE team I worked with would try to make a happy median, push but not bully. The parents do the rest. I think that you misunderstood my original post. PE is not bad for kids, it can be really positive, but parents who damage their kids have a lot to answer for and the ones who make their kids into big babies should be ashamed.

But it is only an opinion...
( Rev. Jayneflakes Buy my book, I need the cash for drugs and hookers, Sun 22 Nov 2009, 10:22, closed)