But..
Yet again - it's not about "taking our jobs" (did you see that South Park episode? hehe). It's about people who come here to take, and not to give.

This is one of the great myths. The proportion of immigrants who come over to Britain simply to sponge off the welfare state is so small as to be statistically insignificant. But the FEAR of people who come over here simply to sponge off the welfare state is MASSIVE.

Think about it. The people who have the get-up-and-go to leave where they were born and travel thousands of miles to settle in a place where they don't know the language or customs aren't the type to simply sit back and rub their hands and say "Great lads. We're in the Land Of Milk And Honey and all we have to do is sit back and let the silly British folk look after us."

No. They're, mostly, the type of people who, on arriving in Britain think "How can I get money to make my life better. How can I find a wife, have kids and make sure that they're educated so they have a better life than I did". So they'll take every job they can - mostly low paid and menial - to make their life better than mere subsistence. Yes, a hefty proportion of them will claim benefits and work "on the black" but, over time, most of them end up working legally. Still in a shit job but they'll do everything in their power to educate their kids and give them a chance at the good life.

Immigration isn't a thing to be feared. Most of them integrate so successfully into society that by the third generation they're buying the Daily Mail and wailing about damn immigrants, coming over here, taking, not giving and so the cycle goes on.

Here's something to ponder. Name me ONE society where peaceful immigration has caused it to crash and burn.

Cheers
( Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Mon 5 Apr 2010, 16:02, 1 reply)

I think perhaps people
are ignoring the actual biggest fear here. Forget about the indigenous population being angry about welfare sponges (there are enough of those around in Britain around at the moment.) What people are scared of is *culture* change. There is far more froth-flecked ranting about conspiracy theories with the Jews and the Muslims etc taking over, or the racial purity being compromised, than there is genuine economic worry (which sadly serves as a cover for such bigotry.)
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 5 Apr 2010, 16:14, closed)

Dear God..

Racial purity.

I smoke too much, drink too much and don't exercise enough and I still rarely get sick. I put it down to "hybrid vigour".

I love being a mongrel.

And I agree with most of what you said. But cultural change is always going on. Anyone time-warped from the 40's or 50's into today's society would probably drop dead of culture shock.

Cheers
( Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Mon 5 Apr 2010, 16:25, closed)

Yeah
cultural change is needed. I'm just pointing out that a lot of the ranting about 'taking our jobs' is a cover up for even less socially acceptable views
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 5 Apr 2010, 16:37, closed)