^this, so hard things bleed.
Also, to expand on your deserving/undeserving thing - it's similar to one of the death penalty arguments, in a strange way. What percentage is it acceptable to get wrong? 1% innocent people wrongly killed? 10%? I think most people would say much, much less than 1%. So how about asylum seekers? If the original poster really is a decent person who is worried about this, how many do you think would be an acceptable "loss rate" ... 1% of genuine asylum seekers refused entry? 10%? 50%? How expensive do you think it would be to instigate a system which NEVER got it wrong? That's "your" taxpayers money, too. I tell you this - it would cost a damn site more than is actually "lost" to the tiny proportion of immigrants who do end up claiming benefits. It would cost a damn site more than is paid in benefits, full stop. So we err on the side of caution, and maybe occasionally a few chancers get in. A few. Who have all been through hell just to get here, yet they are still lazy scroungers?

Oh - and just to clarify... "Illegal" immigrants can't claim benefits. Legal immigrants can, but since as ramparts says, that means EU nationals/commonwealth citizens. Unless you want out of europe and the commonwealth it's a bit pointless to rail against that.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 17:31, 1 reply)

Just look at the language
"entitlement" "so-called liberal left" "my tax money"... it's Moseley in a brand new black shirt. Nationalism is nationalism.

Living as a free citizen of a country with several air and sea ports, one shouldn't resent immigrants for having the balls to head somewhere they'd rather live just because one hasn't oneself.

And looking at the budget for asylum seekers and how many of one's Hard-Earned Tax Pounds that equates too might put things in perspective. But of course, one can't trust statistics. That's the liberal media machine brainwashing the sheeple.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 20:09, closed)

I did check, as it goes.
It's not even a fraction of a pence in every thousand pounds tax you pay. But, hey, nothing like a proportionate response.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 7 Apr 2010, 10:41, closed)