Many arguments have what appear to be valid, reasonable yet conflicting
tenets. The problem is often what value you place on the respective conclusions as to which points one finds the most convincing.

Humans have an immense capacity for co-operation but also find it incredibly easy to fear the 'different' and I would venture that it is not impossible for both of these states to be simultaneously normal. Why do we always assume that we can control our own nature?
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 17:53, 1 reply)

You don't have to go outside this thread
to see examples of all the points you make.
As for your final question, I obviously don't think we can fully control our nature. My lead post postulates the opposite.
However my hope would be that evolution is still ongoing and if it is then I wonder what improvements are left. Unfortunately none of us can ever know the answer but wouldn't it be nice if our children could have brains powerful enough to understand our brains better and use this knowledge to improve everyone's lot?
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 20:34, closed)

I take your point.
I have a fairly low opinion of humanity and our expectation of a seat at the top table of evolution so I almost certainly don't give that evolutionary hope as much credence as I should I suppose. I tend to think of us all as an inconvenience to earth.that will in due course be deleted along with the sabre toothed tiger and the great auk.
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 21:02, closed)

Well if evolution finds us superfluous so be it.
Better start praying.
( edjogs Collared doves are shit., Tue 1 Nov 2011, 22:30, closed)

Don't get anyone started on god for crying out loud!

( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 8:03, closed)

pussy

(Gritty, yet fluffy. kipperpillock is obsessed with me =), Thu 3 Nov 2011, 4:48, closed)

One irrational naively idealist argument per week for me is generally enough.
My puny brain can't deal with any more. Makes me want a cup of tea. Milk, sugar?
( number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Thu 3 Nov 2011, 8:24, closed)