pffft
Legless you've been trolling me around the links boards insisting on following up on one debate we had - I thought it was only fair to take you up on it

I look forward to it - I replied in the old thread, so we don't plug up the links board again

although you can apologise for being wrong now if you want ? ;)

also regarding Obama -

Zbigniew Brzezinski is a major backer of Obama along with Souros

Brzezinski was a neo con favourite author of "The Grand Chessboard"

and before you start screaming 'tinfoil hats' because I'm posting stuff you're unfamiliar with or something Hugh Edwards hasn't told you on the 9 news

here's the quotes and sources

Brzezinski, Obama's backer, also a globalist, wrote in "The Grand Chessboard" about the necessity of going into Afghanistan and Iraq long before 911
www.amazon.com/Grand-Chessboard-American-Geostrategic-Imperatives/dp/0465027261/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1210340592&sr=1-1


Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote in "Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era" about what is needed to usher us into the world government
www.amazon.com/Between-Two-Ages-Zbigniew-Brzezinski/dp/0140043144
Quote:
"The nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty... In the economic-technological field, some international cooperation has already been achieved, but further progress will require greater American sacrifices. More intensive efforts to shape a new world monetary structure will have to be undertaken, with some consequent risk to the present relatively favorable American position."



and rather ironically Brzezinski also wrote in "Between Two Ages"

QUOTE

"Shortly the public will be unable to reason for themselves. They'll be conditioned to let the media do all their reasoning and thinking for them and the only topics of conversation they will have shortly is what's been feed to them or downloaded into them on the previous night's news."

Brzezinski Backs Obama washington post article
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/24/AR2007082402127.html

despite this HIlary I would say is a safer stooge for the CFR than Obama (CFR - council foreign relations - the group Prof Carrol Quigley says runs the government and decides the candidates and policy - and the group responsible for taking us into the new standardised world system) - so my money is still on the lesbian queen

*in the UK the foundation is known as the Royal Institute for Foreign Affairs - and before that the Cecil Rhodes society)

you could do worst that read this book:

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but if you insist on watching Newsround for your opinions - I can't help you
(The Goat www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com, Fri 9 May 2008, 14:41, Reply)