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I once won a gas boiler from The Guardian. Tell us about times you've won, and the excellent and/or crappy prizes you've lifted.
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( , Thu 28 Apr 2011, 14:08)
I once won a gas boiler from The Guardian. Tell us about times you've won, and the excellent and/or crappy prizes you've lifted.
Suggested by dazbrilliantwhites
( , Thu 28 Apr 2011, 14:08)
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You're right.
Aside from warning France of a high price to be paid for its policies in January this year, multiple recordings threatening the murder of Americans and several other nations last year, and many more the year before that, we haven't heard from him AT ALL.
Still, am holding out judgement until evidence is released. I'm not expecting a death certificate or anything, but something independent would be nice.
( , Mon 2 May 2011, 12:29, 1 reply)
Aside from warning France of a high price to be paid for its policies in January this year, multiple recordings threatening the murder of Americans and several other nations last year, and many more the year before that, we haven't heard from him AT ALL.
Still, am holding out judgement until evidence is released. I'm not expecting a death certificate or anything, but something independent would be nice.
( , Mon 2 May 2011, 12:29, 1 reply)
Goos luck with the confirmation from independant sources.
They've already dumped the body they allege is him in the sea. You know, so that they can prove beyond all reasonable doubt to the world at large that it was him, with extensive independent DNA testing, fingerprinting and the like.
I'm not one of those who thinks he's been dead for years or anything but the USians did themselves no favours with this one and with their track record of deceit I don't think anyone can say that OBL is dead.
( , Mon 2 May 2011, 16:36, closed)
They've already dumped the body they allege is him in the sea. You know, so that they can prove beyond all reasonable doubt to the world at large that it was him, with extensive independent DNA testing, fingerprinting and the like.
I'm not one of those who thinks he's been dead for years or anything but the USians did themselves no favours with this one and with their track record of deceit I don't think anyone can say that OBL is dead.
( , Mon 2 May 2011, 16:36, closed)
I would have thought that the squad that shot him can say without hesitation that he is dead.
( , Mon 2 May 2011, 18:58, closed)
( , Mon 2 May 2011, 18:58, closed)
I didn't realise they sent in his dentist, his brother and a fingerprint expert.
Was good that they sent in a few French experts too and some Danes.
Or, perhaps, they just sent in people who are paid to kill for the US and say what they're told?
Heck, this isn't any kind of tinfoil hat or the like but just basic scepticism -- if Manchester United told you they'd beaten Newcastle but the only people there were the teams and Newcastle weren't available for comment, would you believe them?
( , Mon 2 May 2011, 21:23, closed)
Was good that they sent in a few French experts too and some Danes.
Or, perhaps, they just sent in people who are paid to kill for the US and say what they're told?
Heck, this isn't any kind of tinfoil hat or the like but just basic scepticism -- if Manchester United told you they'd beaten Newcastle but the only people there were the teams and Newcastle weren't available for comment, would you believe them?
( , Mon 2 May 2011, 21:23, closed)
So why did they wait ten years before deciding to lie about finding and killing him?
( , Mon 2 May 2011, 21:41, closed)
( , Mon 2 May 2011, 21:41, closed)
No idea, and it is odd.
But they seem to have gone to great lengths to make sure that nobody can prove they killed him -- which is even odder.
They didn't have to hand the body over to Al Jazeera so they could, rightly or wrongly, start questioning whether it really was him -- but to not even give it to a more neutral ally for complete analysis just makes them either liars or incompetent. Either way I'm not sure why anyone would take their word for it.
( , Mon 2 May 2011, 22:33, closed)
But they seem to have gone to great lengths to make sure that nobody can prove they killed him -- which is even odder.
They didn't have to hand the body over to Al Jazeera so they could, rightly or wrongly, start questioning whether it really was him -- but to not even give it to a more neutral ally for complete analysis just makes them either liars or incompetent. Either way I'm not sure why anyone would take their word for it.
( , Mon 2 May 2011, 22:33, closed)
I'm not one for conspiracy theories and the tin-foil-hat brigade....
But I guess the most I could believe is that he died of natural causes at some point and intelligence has only just been able to confirm it for certain - but as that seems a bit anti-climatic they've had to stage a raid and quickly "dispose" of the body to maintain an air of "AMERICA... FUCK YEAH!!!!" about it and somehow justify the thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. Not saying I do believe that, but if there were a conspiracy, I doubt it would be any more sinister than that.
( , Mon 2 May 2011, 23:54, closed)
But I guess the most I could believe is that he died of natural causes at some point and intelligence has only just been able to confirm it for certain - but as that seems a bit anti-climatic they've had to stage a raid and quickly "dispose" of the body to maintain an air of "AMERICA... FUCK YEAH!!!!" about it and somehow justify the thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. Not saying I do believe that, but if there were a conspiracy, I doubt it would be any more sinister than that.
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