
then maybe we need to find a new way. What's special about light?
I think the speed of light is much faster than we think, but we are only capable of seeing things traveling at a maximum of 186,000 mi/s.
It's a limitation of the mind.
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The speed of light is the speed any massless particle travels at. It's the same speed gravitational signals propagate at, for example.
And you can't 'measure' something without observing it, unless you're God.
Nothing to do with minds, this is just physics. I could prove it, if I wasn't knackered and didn't have to get tomorrow. Read the Wiki article.
( , Thu 4 May 2006, 2:35, archived)

Large bodies bend the light behind them. Looking at the edge of the sun we can see stars that should be obscured.
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Photons have no mass. They have energy, which is equivalent to mass (special relativity) and they follow straight paths in curved space-time (general relativity). That's why their paths are curved.
It's cool that you're interested in this sort of thing, real a few decent books on the subject and you'll see where youre misconceptions come from.
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I believe photons have mass. I don't believe in real values of zero or infinity for anything. Even if it's so tiny as to be negligible, everything has mass and energy. I don't believe space-time is curved, but rather constantly expanding, giving events and particles the appearance of having traveled along a curved path.
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