Magners != cider
HINT: If there's ice in it, it ain't cider.
( chenobble rocking his explorer beard on, Sat 11 Aug 2007, 0:11, archived)

***Drink Snob Alert***
You are of course talking utter bollocks.
( Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 11 Aug 2007, 0:33, archived)