I wouldn't want any of the shitter ones to become martyrs
But JMG should die young for that very reason, self-destructing during a cake and warcraft convention
( Imhotep is Invisible - Consider this a divorce, Wed 3 Jun 2009, 16:55, archived)

the two
combined!
( spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Wed 3 Jun 2009, 16:57, archived)