None of this is relevant.
The goal here is an angry Grrrmachine, not a resolution of any technical argument.
( Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 19:18, archived)

oh right

( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 19:20, archived)

that's a rather pointless goal
I'm angry enough that you're all breathing as it is.
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 19:21, archived)

*breathes twice as much, just to spite you*
ooh, dizzy.
( Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Thu 11 Jun 2009, 19:23, archived)