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this is the best I could find
www.b3ta.com/talk/5705481
(I helped save b3ta! spangolin - the odds are good but the goods are odd, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 15:15, archived)
:D thank you missy

(I helped save b3ta! sleepybinky, Fri 12 Jun 2009, 15:18, archived)