i suppose i'd agree with you to some degree
but i want to marry her and not just for the sake of it
(Just Harry What should I put here?, Mon 22 Jun 2009, 19:12, archived)

so what are your genuine reasons
other than "because I want to" which means "for the sake of it."
( Grrrmachine the indifference engine, Mon 22 Jun 2009, 19:16, archived)