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(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:51, archived)
# HAHA!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:52, archived)
# fork handles!
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:52, archived)
# 'O's!
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:09, archived)
# Pfft!
I love how the Dark Lord and David Cameron are both saying, don't vote for the Lib Dems. They might win and then where would we be?
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:52, archived)
# so much this
Vote Clegg - get Brown
Vote Clegg - get Cameron
or simply vote Clegg - get Clegg!!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:56, archived)
# My fear is that Clegg will win
Shit bricks and dissovle parliment after 6 months.

I'm still voting for them though...
(Canazza is mostly listening to Yes, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:57, archived)
# that would still be an improvement
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:02, archived)
# Damn right.
Be interesting, at least :D
(I helped save b3ta! Troo Troo Barney McGrew, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 14:02, archived)
# I like how they've only just thought to mention it
the amount of knee-jerkery from both would be hilarious if I didn't actually live here
(I helped save b3ta! twig Save 6 Music, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:56, archived)
# The "knee-jerkery" doesn't bother me to be honest.
At the end of the day, their job is to get into power, and if they don't succeed with that, then they have failed essentially. However, the main problem I have is that the general public, who are in the main mongers, believe them.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:02, archived)
# me neither, its entirely predictable
as well as Clegg stealing the TV debate as they were more bothered about attacking each other, things like the Navy getting sent to help stranded travellers today and the Tories saying "we suggested that yesterday" are just funny - and most people I think now can see how lame, tired and pathetic all the hasty re-positioning is
(I helped save b3ta! twig Save 6 Music, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:06, archived)
# In other news,
just saw this on twitter from Chris Addison,

"Boris Johnson on Cleggmania: "The biggest load of media-driven nonsense since the funeral of Diana." He's an ear for a soundbite, that one."
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:16, archived)
# hahaha too soon!
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:18, archived)
# brilliant
(I helped save b3ta! twig Save 6 Music, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:21, archived)
# hahya
what's Chris Addison's twittername?
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:28, archived)
# http://twitter.com/mrchrisaddison
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:40, archived)
# ooh - formal.
ta :)
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:45, archived)
# With a Labour government, most likely
Due to the entertaining way the constituencies are laid out, it's nigh impossible for Labour *not* to return a majority to the house, although I think they're doing their damndest to try.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:57, archived)
# theyd have to gain another few more percentage points to win outright
because of our shitty first past the post system
(benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:57, archived)
# actually i quite like first-past-the-post, in principle at least
it means we're *meant* to be represented in parliament by a person rather than voting for some centralised party with its own little dictats. (the reality is, of course, totally different and we all vote by party rather than person... but the principle of our system is not built on parties and i wish party politics would fuck right off and die.)

the big problem here i'd say isn't so much the first-past-the-post system but the increasingly skewed constituencies. i'd not immediately say they've been gerrymandered, but i would certainly say that labour aren't going to be in a hurry to encourage a redrawing of the boundaries while it's aiding them so much, and i doubt the other parties will be in a position to force the issue for quite some time yet.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:00, archived)
# i dont think the constituency boundaries are the problem.
Its because the labour vote tends to be concentrated in urban areas whereas the libdem vote is fairly evenly spread across the country.
(benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:10, archived)
# well, yeah
that's kind of what i'm meaning -- there are too many constituencies in the cities. there's been a tendency towards moving out of the cities, and a few redrawn boundaries within the cities. neither very big, so far as ive heard, but big enough to leave urban constituencies with generally fewer voters who are generally more likely to be natural labour voters. then you have urban constituencies, who are less likely to be labour, covering much wider ground and these days more people.

the way i see it there's two conclusions you can draw from that. either the boundaries suck and should be redrawn (the one i've taken), or the whole system sucks and we should scrap it and go to pure PR.

either way, i'd say *something* has to change.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:14, archived)
# The population rise of the last 20 years has been concentrated in the cities.
(benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:24, archived)
#
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/why-capturing-the-magic-number-of-seats-is-harder-for-the-tories-1930594.html

is fairly interesting. it's doesn't particularly back up my actual claims but it's the same kind of reasoning. depends whether you trust the independent, but it's not traditionally the most hideously tory of papers...
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:34, archived)
# To be honest,
as long as the Lib Dems at least form some kind of coalition with Labour, i will be happy. It isn't ideal, but would be a million times better than if the Tories win outright or the Liberals are forced into a coalition with them.

If there were a Tory/Liberal coalition, which I do think is hugely unlikely, but possible, absolutely fuck all would get done due to the parties being so diametrically opposed.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:04, archived)
# depends how "pure" the Libs actually are
or whether the Tories could make aquiescing on policy "worth their while" with high paid high profile low responsibility cabinet posts, and new business contacts
(I helped save b3ta! twig Save 6 Music, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:10, archived)
# To be honest,
I can't see that happening. Say what you like about the efficacy of the Lib Dems, they are the most principled and honest of the political classes as far as I am concerned.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:14, archived)
# It's easy to be honest when you're too powerless to be worth bribing
edit: that said, i agree, but i don't think there's anything intrinsically honest about a lib dem mp just because he's lib dem. and i've lost a lot of respect for the party as a whole since the shenanigans over their removal of charles kennedy, but i still prefer them by a long way to the other two big parties. still, let's see how principled they still are when they get any power...
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:17, archived)
# people said the same about New Labour
they were elected on a huge anti-sleaze platform, and look what happened. Saying that, I was going to vote Lib Dem anyway and probably still will, just hope that if they get in in any form they stay true to their principles
(I helped save b3ta! twig Save 6 Music, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:20, archived)
# if they make any sort of deal, I hope they insist on proportional representation.
then they'll have a real chance in the future.
(benito vaselini no not that one, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:12, archived)
# They're all so very different from each other, I don't know who to choose.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:54, archived)
# I would suggest reading this
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/18/clegg-media-elite-murdoch-lib-dem

I know I'm not going to change your mind, but meh :)
(I helped save b3ta! Finite "Aardvark sorted out my shit!" on, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:56, archived)
# fuck
can I vote twice?
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:58, archived)
# Nice angle :)
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:01, archived)
# "All of us who care about democracy ... "
From the ex-editor of The Sun.

Hahahahahahaha
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:14, archived)
# this
its like asking Nick Griffin for his answer to the travel chaos
(I helped save b3ta! twig Save 6 Music, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:24, archived)
# yeah I know, the guy's an unbelievable hypocrit
But the overall point of the article is a good one
(I helped save b3ta! Finite "Aardvark sorted out my shit!" on, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:25, archived)
# preaching to the converted in the Guardian though
if it appeared in the Telegraph or Express then it might have some influence, but the Guardian readers are already the most pro-liberal and anti-Murdoch
(I helped save b3ta! twig Save 6 Music, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:30, archived)
# Gord looks like a drunk
trying not to appear drunk. (It's very hard).
(I helped save b3ta! Notorious P I G is deep undercover and reporting back on, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:56, archived)
# He always looks like that.
Also, have you noticed at the end of each sentence he appears to inhale deeply through his mouth, it looks like he's about to throw up most of the time.

(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 12:59, archived)
# When he does that he reminds me of
Mason Verger from Hannibal.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:06, archived)
# *runs off to start a Facebook Group - "9 Billion people voting for Cleggy" *
(I helped save b3ta! doog Don't read this., Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:41, archived)
# I think there are already squillions...
(I helped save b3ta! Barbarossa is not my real name, Mon 19 Apr 2010, 13:51, archived)