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It appears that the victim of a rapist footballer has had her identiy made public on Twitter.
What should be done, if anything, about the lack of controls on social media?
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:02, 193 replies, latest was 12 years ago)
What should be done, if anything, about the lack of controls on social media?
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:02, 193 replies, latest was 12 years ago)
I think this case may well start something
What would happen to a newspaper who named her?
Or is this a plea to Darth?
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:05, Reply)
What would happen to a newspaper who named her?
Or is this a plea to Darth?
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:05, Reply)
*sigh*
We have laws for this already, I'm willing to bet, it's just another INTERNET PANIC.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:08, Reply)
We have laws for this already, I'm willing to bet, it's just another INTERNET PANIC.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:08, Reply)
Exactly, shouldn't be too hard to find and arrest the person that did it.
The problem is when it's retweeted a couple of hundred times.
£50-£100 fine for anyone who did that paid directly to the woman should stop it happening as much.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:11, Reply)
The problem is when it's retweeted a couple of hundred times.
£50-£100 fine for anyone who did that paid directly to the woman should stop it happening as much.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:11, Reply)
Works for me
It really shouldn't be difficult. Trying to regulate Twitter on the other hand would be next to impossible, it would be simpler to make it illegal.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:13, Reply)
It really shouldn't be difficult. Trying to regulate Twitter on the other hand would be next to impossible, it would be simpler to make it illegal.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:13, Reply)
i agree that twitter should be illegal
i tried to use it once but failed to see the point
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:14, Reply)
i tried to use it once but failed to see the point
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:14, Reply)
and the costs of policing payment of the £50 fine?
why don't we let the CPS and their lawyers rack up hundreds of thousands of pounds in enforcing them?
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:15, Reply)
why don't we let the CPS and their lawyers rack up hundreds of thousands of pounds in enforcing them?
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:15, Reply)
i think they should be named and shamed themselves
and made to post pics of themselves in their underwear or something.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:19, Reply)
and made to post pics of themselves in their underwear or something.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:19, Reply)
i'd rather my taxes went on forcing people to flash their underwear
than on moats for MPs or benefits for fourth generation scouse scroungers, frankly!
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:23, Reply)
than on moats for MPs or benefits for fourth generation scouse scroungers, frankly!
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:23, Reply)
I'd rather my taxes went on keeping the welfare state running
and not on much else. Shame we can't choose how our taxes are spent.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:29, Reply)
and not on much else. Shame we can't choose how our taxes are spent.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:29, Reply)
yes
although if we could, i'm not sure the welfare state would do as well out of many people as it would out of you, my friend!
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:36, Reply)
although if we could, i'm not sure the welfare state would do as well out of many people as it would out of you, my friend!
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:36, Reply)
you bloody exhibitionists
we all know your just putting forward this idea so you can out monty as a rapist and get your tits on the telly
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:21, Reply)
we all know your just putting forward this idea so you can out monty as a rapist and get your tits on the telly
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:21, Reply)
silly quentin
my television is not close enough to the sofa for that
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:24, Reply)
my television is not close enough to the sofa for that
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:24, Reply)
and your suggested alternative?
I'm up for anything that would work and cost less. But seriously trying to police Twitter would cost silly money, which leaves shutting it down (see how well that worked on Napster) or leaving it free of all restriction.
I'm only suggestion enforcing whatever laws we have.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:18, Reply)
I'm up for anything that would work and cost less. But seriously trying to police Twitter would cost silly money, which leaves shutting it down (see how well that worked on Napster) or leaving it free of all restriction.
I'm only suggestion enforcing whatever laws we have.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:18, Reply)
it would be nice if people weren't so disgusting as to post details that they know are meant to be private
but some people think they are above the law.
so, depending on what they have posted, i would have a sliding scale of criminal sanctions. but it would have to apply to all social media. and it would have to be proportionate.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:22, Reply)
but some people think they are above the law.
so, depending on what they have posted, i would have a sliding scale of criminal sanctions. but it would have to apply to all social media. and it would have to be proportionate.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:22, Reply)
Yes, it would, sadly we have already established this is not the case.
I'm Happy with this solution, it's just a slightly more involved version of Chompy's "fine 'em" suggestion, probably means more work for struggling lawyers, so all good then. I'd be interested to see the results (I know it's infeasible) of tying each and every on-line post to someone's actual identity, in effect you'd have to post under you real name, I wonder how it would effect some people's personas.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:27, Reply)
I'm Happy with this solution, it's just a slightly more involved version of Chompy's "fine 'em" suggestion, probably means more work for struggling lawyers, so all good then. I'd be interested to see the results (I know it's infeasible) of tying each and every on-line post to someone's actual identity, in effect you'd have to post under you real name, I wonder how it would effect some people's personas.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:27, Reply)
Doesn't really work that though, a newspaper wouldn't think twice about paying that, they'd gladly pay it and more so.
and an individual could never pay a fine. I guess you could scale it to followers, but even then, anyone anywhere can make an account, you can verify ownership for someone who wants to be verifide, but you can't really if they don't.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:47, Reply)
and an individual could never pay a fine. I guess you could scale it to followers, but even then, anyone anywhere can make an account, you can verify ownership for someone who wants to be verifide, but you can't really if they don't.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:47, Reply)
Fuck all,
the person who released it broke the law, they should be punished.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:09, Reply)
the person who released it broke the law, they should be punished.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:09, Reply)
but people will keep on doing so because there is now a public forum for them to air their stupid views
we need to set an example
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:10, Reply)
we need to set an example
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:10, Reply)
Nah, smallish but significant fine.
Most likely to be paid and will make retards think twice before being retarded.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:13, Reply)
Most likely to be paid and will make retards think twice before being retarded.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:13, Reply)
If they knew they would be held accountable it should slow them down.
it was easy enough to catch that twat who made a joke about blowing up robin hood airport.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:14, Reply)
it was easy enough to catch that twat who made a joke about blowing up robin hood airport.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:14, Reply)
and every time he introduced himself he flailed his arms in exasperation
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:13, Reply)
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:13, Reply)
What do you mean "controls"?
People should be punished for offences they've committed, not faced with restrictions to avoid offences they *might* commit.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:11, Reply)
People should be punished for offences they've committed, not faced with restrictions to avoid offences they *might* commit.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:11, Reply)
I've often thought that "hola!" has more than a sniff of mince to it.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:25, Reply)
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:25, Reply)
Yeah
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( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:27, Reply)
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( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:27, Reply)
She's going to right duff you up if she sees this
and I'm totally emailing it to her now.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:39, Reply)
and I'm totally emailing it to her now.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:39, Reply)
I'm suprised you can type through the fury about the possible suggestion that you mince.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:44, Reply)
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:44, Reply)
That must be it.
It's way too easy to imagine an overtly camp man shouting it with a dropped hip and a fruity wave.
Mind you, it's all too easy for me to imagine that full stop. I'm getting a bit worried.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:32, Reply)
It's way too easy to imagine an overtly camp man shouting it with a dropped hip and a fruity wave.
Mind you, it's all too easy for me to imagine that full stop. I'm getting a bit worried.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:32, Reply)
Morning
I hear I wasn't the only one that caused a diplomatic infraction on Saturday night. Are you still sleeping in the kennel?
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:19, Reply)
I hear I wasn't the only one that caused a diplomatic infraction on Saturday night. Are you still sleeping in the kennel?
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:19, Reply)
You could never police social media effectively. Things move too quickly online.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:15, Reply)
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:15, Reply)
Some of us like getting upset sometimes. A good opportunity vent anger at life in general.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:19, Reply)
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:19, Reply)
Just thinking about the lack of anger is making my fucking blood boil.
Those placid CUNTS.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:24, Reply)
Those placid CUNTS.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:24, Reply)
I don't know what that is but I probably hate it too,
Is it foreign?
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:25, Reply)
Is it foreign?
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:25, Reply)
Isn't this exactly what happened with Ryan Giggs last year?
If this woman didn't have a superinjunction, there might not be an offence.
On the other hand, isn't it very naughty to discuss active court cases?
The only controls there should be with social media are ones to stop people hiding behind sockpuppet accounts. I know this might sound odd, as we're hardly going by our real names on here, but i mean if they're doing something inflammatory or illegal, the police should be able to find out who they are.
Of course, there's no way that any controls would work in practice, as there are so many ways you can access the internet and not all countries share the same views about freedom of information.
*shrugs*
I like puppies.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:24, Reply)
If this woman didn't have a superinjunction, there might not be an offence.
On the other hand, isn't it very naughty to discuss active court cases?
The only controls there should be with social media are ones to stop people hiding behind sockpuppet accounts. I know this might sound odd, as we're hardly going by our real names on here, but i mean if they're doing something inflammatory or illegal, the police should be able to find out who they are.
Of course, there's no way that any controls would work in practice, as there are so many ways you can access the internet and not all countries share the same views about freedom of information.
*shrugs*
I like puppies.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:24, Reply)
Yeah, but he didn't want his name out for fucking Imogen
as opposed to being raped.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:25, Reply)
as opposed to being raped.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:25, Reply)
i think i saw a sex video of her, might not have been her
she seemed enthusiastic, better than that tulisa anyroad
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:28, Reply)
she seemed enthusiastic, better than that tulisa anyroad
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:28, Reply)
It's nothingto do with super injuncitons
she was raped by a footballer, and all rape victims are granted anonymity.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:27, Reply)
she was raped by a footballer, and all rape victims are granted anonymity.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:27, Reply)
This morning
I was shitting like a shaking dog.
Last night I was housed like a dog, shaking/shitting or otherwise.
Tonight may be no different.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:38, Reply)
I was shitting like a shaking dog.
Last night I was housed like a dog, shaking/shitting or otherwise.
Tonight may be no different.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:38, Reply)
It took me four hours to drive the two hour trip home.
I had to keep stopping at service stations for a rest. I could barely drive at one point, I was trembling so much.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:38, Reply)
I had to keep stopping at service stations for a rest. I could barely drive at one point, I was trembling so much.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:38, Reply)
Hahahaha.
I struggled but just about managed it.
Luckily Lusty and Monty had my car to sleep in.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:40, Reply)
I struggled but just about managed it.
Luckily Lusty and Monty had my car to sleep in.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:40, Reply)
You know how sometimes you'll get all hot and sweaty
and get a huge wave of dizziness and nausea?
That happened to me at 80mph.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:44, Reply)
and get a huge wave of dizziness and nausea?
That happened to me at 80mph.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:44, Reply)
That happened to me at three bacardis.
I am such a fucking lightweight.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:50, Reply)
I am such a fucking lightweight.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:50, Reply)
I'll sell you some diazepam at the next bash - helps get rid of that stage of a hangover.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:58, Reply)
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:58, Reply)
He's gonna charge him for a 20mg that he gets on his script
That's well tight
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:08, Reply)
That's well tight
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:08, Reply)
Eh, I won't if you don't mind.
I'm not really into non-medicinal use.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:09, Reply)
I'm not really into non-medicinal use.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:09, Reply)
I wasn't trying to say he suffered as much as she did
what I meant was that his superinjuction meant it was illegal to name him, and people did it. as far as I know, nobody was punished for that.
She has, as you say, anonymity, and someone has named her. I bet you no-one gets punished for that either.
And I tell you what - the first place I would be looking for someone to finger for this 'leak' is the rest of the footballer's teammates.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:30, Reply)
what I meant was that his superinjuction meant it was illegal to name him, and people did it. as far as I know, nobody was punished for that.
She has, as you say, anonymity, and someone has named her. I bet you no-one gets punished for that either.
And I tell you what - the first place I would be looking for someone to finger for this 'leak' is the rest of the footballer's teammates.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:30, Reply)
Yeah, why not?
Fingering doesn't get the attention it deserves these days.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:37, Reply)
Fingering doesn't get the attention it deserves these days.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:37, Reply)
frigging comes from the norse goddess frigg, mother of thor and loki
and wife of wodin, i think we discussed this before
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:41, Reply)
and wife of wodin, i think we discussed this before
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:41, Reply)
you should probably look the story up
police and the club and tracing the person(s) who revealed the name, they will be punished
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:32, Reply)
police and the club and tracing the person(s) who revealed the name, they will be punished
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:32, Reply)
are you calling me ill informed?
On a story I've never heard of until five minutes ago?
Well, I've never been so insulted.
Or maybe I have. I'd have to go look it up...
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:38, Reply)
On a story I've never heard of until five minutes ago?
Well, I've never been so insulted.
Or maybe I have. I'd have to go look it up...
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:38, Reply)
I believe in Freedom Of Speech, but I also believe in resonciblity of it.
The police went after a load of EDL lot last week 'cus of their racist rants. It all depends on context.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:48, Reply)
The police went after a load of EDL lot last week 'cus of their racist rants. It all depends on context.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:48, Reply)
yeah but these days some speech is free some isn't
I could call you a fat in the street without much bother, but if I called you a fat jew I could be arrested on a "hate crime"
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:54, Reply)
I could call you a fat in the street without much bother, but if I called you a fat jew I could be arrested on a "hate crime"
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 16:54, Reply)
As I said, context. If you wrote a novel and a character called another a fat jew, then that would also be different.
Which is why I believe in responcilbity of the speech. Like what I said about battered's misses was pretty disgusting, but the context was on a site known for sick humour and creative writing, in reply to a hypothetical question, with the pure intent to shock. If I said it to his face out of the blue in the middle of the street, then that would be different and his subsiquent reaction would be purly justifid.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:01, Reply)
Which is why I believe in responcilbity of the speech. Like what I said about battered's misses was pretty disgusting, but the context was on a site known for sick humour and creative writing, in reply to a hypothetical question, with the pure intent to shock. If I said it to his face out of the blue in the middle of the street, then that would be different and his subsiquent reaction would be purly justifid.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:01, Reply)
Mate, I got so many ideas for books and films, you can have that one.
My favorite one is Jacky Chan and Will Smith being time-traveling cops to stop Jason Strephan from changing the course of history in order to save his own wife.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:07, Reply)
My favorite one is Jacky Chan and Will Smith being time-traveling cops to stop Jason Strephan from changing the course of history in order to save his own wife.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:07, Reply)
Jet Li will be in there too, it's a little bit like that one with the pararel universes.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:08, Reply)
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:08, Reply)
Hold up, have I read this wrong?
Are you basing your entire book on one character calling another character a 'fat jew' ? Like a 500 page novel with a 1 sentance punchline?
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:15, Reply)
Are you basing your entire book on one character calling another character a 'fat jew' ? Like a 500 page novel with a 1 sentance punchline?
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:15, Reply)
You realise that by not turning up
you ensured that Battered glassed some poor random guy in the club instead of you? That's on *your* conscience Gonz, my boy.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:05, Reply)
you ensured that Battered glassed some poor random guy in the club instead of you? That's on *your* conscience Gonz, my boy.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:05, Reply)
By extension
Gonz ruined my shirt, Rakky's cardigan and Swipe's handbag.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:07, Reply)
Gonz ruined my shirt, Rakky's cardigan and Swipe's handbag.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:07, Reply)
He ought to write an open letter to Bristol's paramedics
apologising for being responsible for the incident, for ruining everyone's evening and thanking them for all the hard work he indirectly caused.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:11, Reply)
apologising for being responsible for the incident, for ruining everyone's evening and thanking them for all the hard work he indirectly caused.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:11, Reply)
Did I at least get to pull?
I mean, not the after-pub pulling competition thinggy that sometimes happens and stops the moment Dok Something moves in for the kill... like, a proper pull 'cus someone actually wants to pull.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:12, Reply)
I mean, not the after-pub pulling competition thinggy that sometimes happens and stops the moment Dok Something moves in for the kill... like, a proper pull 'cus someone actually wants to pull.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:12, Reply)
The only thing you pulled was your semi-flaccid penis.
Sorry to be the bearer etc.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:16, Reply)
Sorry to be the bearer etc.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:16, Reply)
_you're_ sorry to be the bearer? At least you ain't the one stuck with The Disapointment.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:18, Reply)
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:18, Reply)
He did bleed quite a lot.
I think it's my fault. It kicked off after pier bash as well.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:11, Reply)
I think it's my fault. It kicked off after pier bash as well.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:11, Reply)
It's a shame Amberl wasn't around
we were sorely lacking in muscle.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:13, Reply)
we were sorely lacking in muscle.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:13, Reply)
And there was the slapping contest outside the club as well.
I might pitch a film idea to Richard Curtis.
Two Fights, No Weddings and Monty's Funeral.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:15, Reply)
I might pitch a film idea to Richard Curtis.
Two Fights, No Weddings and Monty's Funeral.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:15, Reply)
Oh, I'd forgotten about that.
That was a bit wet, though. I was able to walk right through middle of it without incident.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:16, Reply)
That was a bit wet, though. I was able to walk right through middle of it without incident.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:16, Reply)
You've obviously never seen Darth get his foot stuck in his "jarmies"
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:19, Reply)
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:19, Reply)
Was he also 24k% better than him at what he does than what battered is at what battered does?
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:07, Reply)
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:07, Reply)
it's not freedom of speech to name a rape victim
who has legal anonymity. It's someone being a fucking cunt.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:00, Reply)
who has legal anonymity. It's someone being a fucking cunt.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:00, Reply)
because "they" think that it wasn't rape
"they" being more qualified than a court to decide it. Also, because he's a semi-famous player and therefore, in modern society, fame even for something as meaningless as kicking a ball trumps actual guilt for criminal acts.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:06, Reply)
"they" being more qualified than a court to decide it. Also, because he's a semi-famous player and therefore, in modern society, fame even for something as meaningless as kicking a ball trumps actual guilt for criminal acts.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:06, Reply)
Oh nonononon, sorry, I wasn't speaking about this specific case.
There is no justification to publish those details.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:02, Reply)
There is no justification to publish those details.
( , Mon 23 Apr 2012, 17:02, Reply)
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