No, I'm sure you can see it's pretty retardedto compare my opinion about myself with what GOD is meant to be telling us. I'm not God, so who gives a wet fuck about me? Everyone's irrational at times and most people are rational most of the rest of the time. But if this book is God's word then we should take every word of it extremely seriously. My logic hangs on a belief that the Bible is God's word. Since no-one in their right mind thinks that anything I say is God's word the logic doesn't even begin to apply.
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boris the spider,
Mon 17 May 2010, 11:55,
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I give a fuck about you, that's why i'm asking.It seems to me that you just don't see the bible for what it is - a 2000 year old self-help book. The only people that run into problems are the people that take the stories literally. The vast majority of christians don't take it literally. Start treating it like aesop's fables and you'll probably find some life lessons that you agree with.
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gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Mon 17 May 2010, 12:03,
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So essentially, the Bible is harmless as long as you don't believe in God?
emvee cruor deo cruoris,
Mon 17 May 2010, 12:06,
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Depends on your definition of god reallyI'm a quaker so my definition might not be the same as yours.
( gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Mon 17 May 2010, 12:10,
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Quakers are about the only religion I have any time forMainly because they don't preach, they keep themselves to themselves and yet they do good and charitable things without having to tell everyone about it.
If all religionists were Quakers, I wouldn't have a problem with them.
(If all religionists were Quakers, I wouldn't have a problem with them.
emvee cruor deo cruoris,
Mon 17 May 2010, 12:12,
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Jesus once extolled the virtuesof the man who prays in silence, and of the man gives charity in secret; and he condemned the man who prays loudly on street corners and makes a show of how much money he gives away.
I wish the wee frees in St Andrews had heard of that. No idea what charitable work they do but they don't half shout loudly on the street corners.
(I wish the wee frees in St Andrews had heard of that. No idea what charitable work they do but they don't half shout loudly on the street corners.
boris the spider,
Mon 17 May 2010, 12:14,
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See, there I completely agree with Jesus emvee cruor deo cruoris,
Mon 17 May 2010, 12:16,
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I don't think anybody should tell anyone else that their beliefs are wrong.
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gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Mon 17 May 2010, 12:20,
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Flipside: I don't believe anyone should tell me their beliefs are right, eitherIf by "beliefs" we're meaning "religious beliefs". (This isn't a criticism at you, you've not done so.) But I believe I should have the right to say that I don't believe in their beliefs and feel that they're wrong, and they have the right to say that I'm wrong and they're right all they like. (I probably won't listen but hey, they most likely won't either so everyone's even.)
There is a distinction there but it may have been lost...
(There is a distinction there but it may have been lost...
boris the spider,
Mon 17 May 2010, 12:24,
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Everyone has the right to say whatever they want, whevener they want.In my mind the most important thing society can do is just accept that there are people out there who are their polar opposites and just move on. Not tolerate, accept.
( gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Mon 17 May 2010, 12:29,
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I'd certainly not argue with that!Didn't mean to sound like I did. But that's not taking it as God's word in the way I meant -- I meant people who take it literally. And cherry-picking the bits to take literally is a horrible thing to do because I feel that's an inconsistent way of thinking. That doesn't say that there aren't things to take from it that can be helpful for your life -- but it probably does say you shouldn't sit there and memorise the books of Law and stick to them all.
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Mon 17 May 2010, 12:06,
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