'the fact that the government have caused the disorder'No they have not - the rioters have caused the disorder.
This is not in any way about disenfranchisement; it's about opportunitism only.
The blame lies at nobody's feet but those who have taken part in the riots.
(This is not in any way about disenfranchisement; it's about opportunitism only.
The blame lies at nobody's feet but those who have taken part in the riots.
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:54,
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I want to know what broon's theory is, though.Your explanation might be right, but is a bit unsatisfying.
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Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:58,
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That's me all over. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:05,
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It's clear that you don't wish to look at the wider problems that have been happily ignored for many yearsIf they continue to be ignored by the government, this sort of disorder will keep happening in the future.
Of course the people perpetrating these crimes are responsible for their actions, but these people are not created in a vacuum. Arresting the perpetrators is necessary, but is only a short-term solution.
(Of course the people perpetrating these crimes are responsible for their actions, but these people are not created in a vacuum. Arresting the perpetrators is necessary, but is only a short-term solution.
drbroon abloooobloobloo,
Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:09,
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In this instance there aren't any wider problems.It's just opportunism.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:20,
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in your expert opinion, I supposekeep watching the bbc, it agrees with you.
( drbroon abloooobloobloo,
Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:29,
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Joe S has it on the money:(
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:32,
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I agreeso does monkeon b3ta.com/board/10504459
and haberman b3ta.com/board/10504458
(and haberman b3ta.com/board/10504458
drbroon abloooobloobloo,
Wed 10 Aug 2011, 22:08,
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*Sigh*Okay, I think there's been too much roundabouting here, and it seems that the message you originally put down has been twisted...
Yes I agree that there are problems in Britain and yes, people have a right to feel wronged if they have tried and failed to make a life for themselves
However, attaching this legitimate outrage to the recent LOOTING seems like a bit of a betrayal... There are plenty of disaffected, unemployed, rightfully angry people who have not decided to take the opportunity to destroy public property or private businesses and make off with whatever they can carry...
There are ways and means to change the state of things, wanton, aimless destruction is going to solve precisely NOTHING... So people who want change tend not to go down that route!
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Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:43,
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Yes I agree that there are problems in Britain and yes, people have a right to feel wronged if they have tried and failed to make a life for themselves
However, attaching this legitimate outrage to the recent LOOTING seems like a bit of a betrayal... There are plenty of disaffected, unemployed, rightfully angry people who have not decided to take the opportunity to destroy public property or private businesses and make off with whatever they can carry...
There are ways and means to change the state of things, wanton, aimless destruction is going to solve precisely NOTHING... So people who want change tend not to go down that route!
I agree. I simply posited reasons that this is happening, these are not exhaustive reasons, simply a wider reason than just a lot of individual anti-social people
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drbroon abloooobloobloo,
Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:51,
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