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# I wasn't going to join in
as I prefer to discuss weighty matters with people I know in real life.

I agree with some of your arguments but also empathise with Vagabond's point of view, and ultimately, like _Felix I think, I believe that there's a middle ground (please visit me on my fence sometime).

Anyway, all I reall wanted to add is that I think the last line of your post above is correct and verry very important.

(, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:41, archived)
# I'm not sure what it means.
I'm guessing "employ more people in public services" - right?
(, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:46, archived)
# Not necessarily, and I don't have any quick answers
But I believe rhetoric from both government and opposition politicians achieves nothing and that long-term positive action (whatever that is) by government rather than negative quick-fixes is the way to make the current situation less rather than more likely in future.
(, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:57, archived)