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# I like my iPod Classic and I use Macs all the time
but the veneration thrown at him is astonishing. He was a salesman, and an extremely effective one, and he had some nice ideas about design and cutting the shit to reduce something to what it's designed to do. He also had some ideas about business practice that would have seen Apple broken up and fined to oblivion if they'd had a slightly higher market share, a desire to lock people into their ecosystem to an insane degree (I don't want to use iTunes with my iPod, thank you, I'd rather use something that isn't so fucking SHIT) and the direction that OSX is moving in is looking distinctly unappetising.

People just seem to think that Apple are the nice guys and are looking out for them. No, no they're not, they're a massive international corporation who don't give a fuck about you. Yes, Stephen Fry, I'm talking to *you*.

Pah.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 10:12, archived)
# to be fair, they're probably sucking Stephen Fry's cock morning noon and night
as he is their leading British "brand ambassador"

and he's always on TV
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 10:20, archived)
# I hope for his sake they pay him a fortune for it all
because the alternative is that he really believes that Apple invented everything and do it better than anyone else. I like a lot of Apple's kit but... seriously, come on Stephen. Either cash your massive pay cheque or ease up a bit.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 10:26, archived)
# a dick to work with, apparently.
fucking people off since the days of the Homebrew Computer Club.
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 10:20, archived)
# That as well
I don't think many genuinely lovely people become CEO of major multinational companies. He did seem to have his good sides, too, and I don't think anyone could argue how successful it all was. Still, it's interesting to compare the amount of money that Bill Gates (devil incarnate, worst man in computing ever blah blah blah blah blah) and Microsoft (devil incarnate, worst company in computing ever blah blah blah blah blah) have thrown at charities compared with Jobs and Apple.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 10:23, archived)
# as evil as bill is, I'm sure he'd be more fun to talk to
:)

edit: especially as he's still breathing and wouldn't need some kind of lightning powered frankenstein app for that.
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 10:26, archived)
# I don't think Jobs would make a good conversationalist any more
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 10:27, archived)
# it'd take more than stuffing his corpse with LIDL meat and a bit of necromancy to make that feasible, indeed.
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 10:30, archived)
# Thinking about it
someone's probably built an App and stuffed it full of Jobs quotes. You could just put an iPhone in his jacket and talk to that. It might not seem like he's listening to you but by repute that wouldn't be a surprise.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 10:32, archived)
# haha
there's always this
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 11:09, archived)
# someone will do this
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 11:22, archived)
# In terms of altruism, Bill Gates has given more back.
Apple are notoriously uncharitable, despite their wealth. Jobs also.
(I helped save b3ta! Smallbrainfield, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 12:56, archived)
# I might even phrase it "Apple are defiantly uncharitable"
or "Apple are unapologetically uncharitable".
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 11 Oct 2011, 13:04, archived)