Not denying that,not saying anything about Euclidean Geometry either, because it's irrelevant. But let's come back to Epicurus again and see how it relates to what we started with here in the first place. If you are going to go by his philosophy and get your theories by observation of the natural world, well, there was no evidence for the spontaneous generation theory of the Greeks, and really quite a lot for the common Hebrew knowledge that animals only ever come from other animals of the same species. This is why I give the Hebrews the points in this particular game.
There were people in the Enlightenment who liked to ascribe Greek primacy to everything, but it was often just Eurocentric prejudice. A lot of good maths and science originated in Babylon, because they needed it to do their astrology. They were also heavily influenced by the Egyptians and the Phoenicians.
(There were people in the Enlightenment who liked to ascribe Greek primacy to everything, but it was often just Eurocentric prejudice. A lot of good maths and science originated in Babylon, because they needed it to do their astrology. They were also heavily influenced by the Egyptians and the Phoenicians.
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Wed 26 Oct 2011, 17:54,
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so euclidean geometry is irrelevant, but the stuff originating from babylon is relevant?obviously the Greeks got things wrong, but they got other things right and they did so by keeping an open mind, one which was shut by the ignorance of religion.
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Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus,
Wed 26 Oct 2011, 18:20,
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it's not really relevant to religion, no.It's good to have an open mind, maybe if you had one you'd see that this doctrine of yours (or did you uncritically receive it from that Dawkins chap?) that religion is the same thing as ignorance was, well, ignorant.
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Wed 26 Oct 2011, 18:33,
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well if you want to talk about my 'doctrine' i'll tell youi actually went to sunday school untill the age of 10, basically because it was a free babysitter, my parents have no religious standing, but they never told me what to think. since the age of 10 i gradually discredited the bible and decided that instead of believing that god created the earth in seven days (etc) the earth was created over billions of years from leftover dust from a supernova. instead of beliving that humans come from some ribs and some dust we evolved from apes of millions of years. instead of believing that after death your spirit flies off (somewhere) and your reunited with dead relatives, your constituent atoms are re-distributed in the ground or in the air and continue a cycle of life that's been going for billions of years.
you want to talk about ignorance.
yes i do think preaching a book written by men 2000 years ago as scientific fact is ignorant, when all it is at best is a philosophical document on the human nature and society.
(you want to talk about ignorance.
yes i do think preaching a book written by men 2000 years ago as scientific fact is ignorant, when all it is at best is a philosophical document on the human nature and society.
Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus,
Wed 26 Oct 2011, 19:22,
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Oh Sunday School what damage you do
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Wed 26 Oct 2011, 19:37,
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yes hours wasted listening about super-jesus when i could of been testing my new rope swing
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Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus,
Wed 26 Oct 2011, 19:42,
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