hah, no they used pen and paper, but the same equationsso when a christian, a hebrew or a muslim makes a scientific discovery it's because of their religion and therefore of great importance, but when someone like euclid comes up with something of real significance it's irrelevant.
smacks of apologist sentiment to me.
(smacks of apologist sentiment to me.
Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus,
Wed 26 Oct 2011, 18:47,
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It's irrelevant to your original assertionthat "the Greeks were making good headway in discrediting religion and mysticism". Quite a lot of the Greek philosophers were very mystical, in fact. Of course Galileo et al didn't discredit Aristotelian physics because he was a Christian, but you speak as if religious people never said anything clever at all, as if religion were opposed in principle to science, or even to thinking, and that the bounties of modernity are all ultimately creditable to the Greeks.
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Wed 26 Oct 2011, 18:58,
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If a religious person did say something clever it would be in spite of religion not because of itespecially with an administration like the catholic church as the dominant authority
( Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus,
Wed 26 Oct 2011, 19:05,
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On the contrary.Religious people have said clever things throughout the ages and not because they were any less religious than their contemporaries. Being clever and being religious are entirely orthogonal properties. And you haven't read up on the Conflict Thesis yet, have you?
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Wed 26 Oct 2011, 19:09,
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so you think setting out on a scientific endeavour with the viewpoint that god made everythingis in no way a hindrance?
I did the conflict thesis at university yes, shall I list a load of literature and you can tell me if you've read up on it?
(I did the conflict thesis at university yes, shall I list a load of literature and you can tell me if you've read up on it?
Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus,
Wed 26 Oct 2011, 19:28,
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no I don't think it is,you pulled an ace out of your sleeve just there though, gaz me the bibliography and I'll look into it.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Wed 26 Oct 2011, 19:37,
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roger penrose - the road to realitythere's a start
( Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus,
Wed 26 Oct 2011, 19:40,
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waitthat doesn't appear to be about the Conflict Thesis at all.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Wed 26 Oct 2011, 19:46,
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