I would give the English more credit than that actually, they should know better. Of course given the average American total lack of geographical knowledge of anything outside of 'the land of the 'free'', they'd be forgiven for making the mistake, and swiftly corrected.
And if you think the Orange Order causes riots, you've either failed, or chosen not to, understand the situation at all.
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Sat 2 Jun 2012, 12:48,
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And if you think the Orange Order causes riots, you've either failed, or chosen not to, understand the situation at all.
I was born in NI in the 70's, live there until 99 and thank fuck I now live in lovely EnglandHaving grown up in NI and seeing the same shit on my doorstep every year I understand the shitty situation very well. Let me put it to you as simply as it actually is:
1- Orange order choose to march through a Catholic area (singing anti catholic songs)
2- Catholics are offended and beat back by police.
3- Orange men retire to their halls for tea and cakes and choose their next area to offend
4- Police are left to deal with a disrupted/angry neighbourhood - hence a riot ensues
*repeat every year until sense evolves
(1- Orange order choose to march through a Catholic area (singing anti catholic songs)
2- Catholics are offended and beat back by police.
3- Orange men retire to their halls for tea and cakes and choose their next area to offend
4- Police are left to deal with a disrupted/angry neighbourhood - hence a riot ensues
*repeat every year until sense evolves
Q4nobody,
Sat 2 Jun 2012, 12:59,
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Strange. You seem to be siding with the 'Irish' insurgents, implying your support for them and their suit-wearing wing, that I assume you voted for whilst here; but yet you say you moved to the UK mainland to be among 'the brits'..?
Hypocrisy..?
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Sat 2 Jun 2012, 13:07,
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Hypocrisy..?
It's a lovely day, enjoy the sunshine (behind the clouds)(
Michael Ellis contributes nothing,
Sat 2 Jun 2012, 13:15,
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You're assumptions are immature, to say the leastI was born a Catholic, but couldn't give a shit for religion, I married an English Protestant and my best friend is protestant from the Shankill road in Belfast. Remove those blinkers and see how beautiful this world is. Oh, and get some new records.
( Q4nobody,
Sat 2 Jun 2012, 13:16,
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Like I imagine most people would, I fail to see how my pointing out your clearly Irish insurgent sympathies is immature, since every single 'point' you made alludes to just such a viewpoint...
What is actually immature is to think that any of it has anything to do with religion. I doubt many IRA scumbags have even seen the inside of a place of worship, or ever read the Bible.
Also, concerning your first 'point'; just citing Drumcree as an example; the Orange Order had been marching their traditional route there since about 1807. It's only since scores of bitter 'Irish' people chose to move in there and protest against old men walking the streets of their own country that trouble has arisen. It wasn't a 'catholic area'.
It of course draws a parallel with countless Muslims coming to the UK and then protesting armed forces homecoming parades in their own country. Again, disgusting.
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Sat 2 Jun 2012, 13:34,
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What is actually immature is to think that any of it has anything to do with religion. I doubt many IRA scumbags have even seen the inside of a place of worship, or ever read the Bible.
Also, concerning your first 'point'; just citing Drumcree as an example; the Orange Order had been marching their traditional route there since about 1807. It's only since scores of bitter 'Irish' people chose to move in there and protest against old men walking the streets of their own country that trouble has arisen. It wasn't a 'catholic area'.
It of course draws a parallel with countless Muslims coming to the UK and then protesting armed forces homecoming parades in their own country. Again, disgusting.
oh man you're right!he's clearly a filthy republican. quick, firebomb his house and shoot his children! that'll teach him proper respect for the old union jack.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie,
Sat 2 Jun 2012, 13:42,
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Ah, if all else fails resort to personal insults. A true sign of maturity and the ability to engage in conversation or debate like an adult.
Oh, no, wait...
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Sat 2 Jun 2012, 14:24,
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Oh, no, wait...
It wasn't an insultJust repeating a phrase from a popular 3D movie. Taken from a scene where one character was bored with engaging with the other. Open your mind and have a nice life.
( Q4nobody,
Sat 2 Jun 2012, 14:30,
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you're very hostile.fancy a snuggle?
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie,
Sat 2 Jun 2012, 14:36,
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You got any more knackered guitars for sale? Michael Ellis contributes nothing,
Sat 2 Jun 2012, 15:10,
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Hypocrisy... Not if he's rightBut that said, both sides are as bad as each other.
Having spent much of my childhood in NI, the overbearing feeling I have is 'Why can't everyone get the fuck over themselves and move on with life?'.
I have very little time for people who are so preoccupied with historical events and rivalries instead of realising that they have one life and should try to make the most of their own, instead of worrying about others.
(Having spent much of my childhood in NI, the overbearing feeling I have is 'Why can't everyone get the fuck over themselves and move on with life?'.
I have very little time for people who are so preoccupied with historical events and rivalries instead of realising that they have one life and should try to make the most of their own, instead of worrying about others.
jaymz,
Sat 2 Jun 2012, 13:26,
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That's what we the British try to do in our own country day after day, just get on with it.
However it seems every single day of our lives in our part of the UK at least, there are attacks being made, either literally, or simply on our right to be who we are, in this case by Tesco. It's not us that's causing the problems here. So every day through our local media (be it the Belfast Telegraph or BBC Newsline), we're drawn into it, the propaganda war of the Irish insurgency here in the UK rages on, and you'd have to be blind to be lucky enough to avoid it.
The whole 'both sides are as bad as each other' argument just doesn't wash. The British didn't start the war.
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Sat 2 Jun 2012, 13:43,
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However it seems every single day of our lives in our part of the UK at least, there are attacks being made, either literally, or simply on our right to be who we are, in this case by Tesco. It's not us that's causing the problems here. So every day through our local media (be it the Belfast Telegraph or BBC Newsline), we're drawn into it, the propaganda war of the Irish insurgency here in the UK rages on, and you'd have to be blind to be lucky enough to avoid it.
The whole 'both sides are as bad as each other' argument just doesn't wash. The British didn't start the war.
yeah, the dutch started it.
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mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie,
Sat 2 Jun 2012, 13:56,
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