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# is it still
Michael Ellis
CEO Adobe
Overpriced Image Manipulation St
Ripoff
USA
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Fri 15 Jun 2012, 17:28, archived)
# Perfect.
c/o Vimod please - he looks after the financials now
(I helped save b3ta! Michael Ellis contributes nothing, Fri 15 Jun 2012, 17:39, archived)