that which we subjectively describe as ugly may simply be an emotional and/or visceral response, which by communicating that response requires definition. beauty is no different and just cos they're at opposite ends of a qualitative spectrum doesn't indicate comparison.
by 'purely subjective rhetoric', i mean that i took bk's question to be rhetorical and made without objectivity. why shouldn't a response be considered purely subjective? an imagined apple is an object visualised, but the qualities of our experiences are quite abstract and i say they can be purely subjective. otherwise art would be very boring.
just cos you mention it, by the by, some folk seem to think that there wasn't a word for the colour blue until quite recently. radiolab did a nice thing.
but you probably knew that, too. :)
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by 'purely subjective rhetoric', i mean that i took bk's question to be rhetorical and made without objectivity. why shouldn't a response be considered purely subjective? an imagined apple is an object visualised, but the qualities of our experiences are quite abstract and i say they can be purely subjective. otherwise art would be very boring.
just cos you mention it, by the by, some folk seem to think that there wasn't a word for the colour blue until quite recently. radiolab did a nice thing.
but you probably knew that, too. :)
Your first sentence there is the key. Yes, our perception of ugliness might manifest as an emotional and/or visceral response. But such a response is wordless, in the gut. To communicate that response in words does usually require definition, and in naming the response we reveal the truth of the situation: I communicate the visceral feeling in terms which we all know and accept to be relative. “Looking at this gave me a bad feeling” necessarily requires knowledge of being able to look at something and get a good feeling, in order for it to make any sense.
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beauty is only skin deepbut ugliness goes right to the bone
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No.Words I like:
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Melons
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Melons
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atomic A-bomb-a-nation,
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male swearing cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations,
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when you sit on woman's handbag by mistake cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations,
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