oh yeahI'm not saying we wern't bad IN THE PAST.
But seem to have taken over the mantle - doesn't mean it isn't still wrong.
And Henry Ford sold trucks to hitler - yeah bad innit.. just as guilty.
Some of us however would like to stop the circle of violence and destruction. Not escalate it to support our ailling weapons sales, ensure that the 25% people who use 65% of the world resources can continue raping the planet. Don't accuse me personally of being bad - I said YOUR GOVERNMENT.
They are wrong not necessarily you, but what has been done by many people is wrong. That is a FACT.
(But seem to have taken over the mantle - doesn't mean it isn't still wrong.
And Henry Ford sold trucks to hitler - yeah bad innit.. just as guilty.
Some of us however would like to stop the circle of violence and destruction. Not escalate it to support our ailling weapons sales, ensure that the 25% people who use 65% of the world resources can continue raping the planet. Don't accuse me personally of being bad - I said YOUR GOVERNMENT.
They are wrong not necessarily you, but what has been done by many people is wrong. That is a FACT.
Darkedge,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:36,
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There is something you fail to realize in all of this though.Americans are British, Irish, Scottish, French, Polish, Russian, Turkish, Spanish, Iraqi, Portughese, Icelandic, Norweigan, German, Chinese, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Iranian, etc...
America is the world.
(America is the world.
Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:46,
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Americans are Americanexcept for recent immigrants who make up less than 2% of the population (CIA Factbook)
Just cos your great-grandfather was Polish/Irish/Spanish/Mexican doesn't make you Polish/Irish/Spanish/Mexican...
(Just cos your great-grandfather was Polish/Irish/Spanish/Mexican doesn't make you Polish/Irish/Spanish/Mexican...
thirdman Ia! Ia! R'lyeh Cthulhu ftagn! Ia! Ia! Mglui nafl,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:51,
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Of course that only counts legal immigrantsNot the thousands of Mexicans that hop the border every month, or people immigrating with "student visas" then vanishing into the background when their visa is getting ready to expire, or boatloads of cubans and chinese...
Of course, the vast majority of American residents were born in the US, but raised by first of second generation immigrants with traditions dating back to ancestral countries. We don't squash those as effectively or frequently as Europeans do...
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Fri 10 Oct 2003, 17:33,
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Of course, the vast majority of American residents were born in the US, but raised by first of second generation immigrants with traditions dating back to ancestral countries. We don't squash those as effectively or frequently as Europeans do...
or likes to think it isin reality you have worse ghettos now than 30 years ago.
Integration? Oh fuck off.
Britain isn't just white anglosaxons you know.
If the USA is the world - We are well and truly FUCKED.
Thrown out of the Human rights commission of the UN for more Human Rights abuses than ANY OTHER COUNTRY.
Refused to let UN inspectors in to check the votes when Bush came to power, yet used their power in the UN to force that on many other countries.
Any more?? What about your poution abuses, backed out of a treaty that every other country in the world had signed.
Grr. Don't try that tack either.
(Integration? Oh fuck off.
Britain isn't just white anglosaxons you know.
If the USA is the world - We are well and truly FUCKED.
Thrown out of the Human rights commission of the UN for more Human Rights abuses than ANY OTHER COUNTRY.
Refused to let UN inspectors in to check the votes when Bush came to power, yet used their power in the UN to force that on many other countries.
Any more?? What about your poution abuses, backed out of a treaty that every other country in the world had signed.
Grr. Don't try that tack either.
Darkedge,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:55,
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With this...I have not disagreed.
But your desensitization on something Americans feel a strong connection to is immoral and down-right rude.
Bush is a tweunt... plain and simple. And all that fucking war has to do with is the fact that Saddam tried to kill his father.
It's retarted. Don't call ALL of us baby killers, because we're not.
(But your desensitization on something Americans feel a strong connection to is immoral and down-right rude.
Bush is a tweunt... plain and simple. And all that fucking war has to do with is the fact that Saddam tried to kill his father.
It's retarted. Don't call ALL of us baby killers, because we're not.
Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 18:10,
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Except that if you're a 'British American' and you have both passports, it is *illegal* to travel to the US on the other one.You *must* travel on your US passport.
This is like saying, I don't mind what you call yourself in private, in public you must wave the flag and do the dance. Hardly tolerent is it.
You see, all the Americans I know say that this is fine, after all if you are a dual-national then of course you'd want to reject the non-American bit.
Funnily enough, everyone else thinks it's jingoistic nonsense.
P.S. My G.F. is dual national (IRE/US) which is why I know this.
(This is like saying, I don't mind what you call yourself in private, in public you must wave the flag and do the dance. Hardly tolerent is it.
You see, all the Americans I know say that this is fine, after all if you are a dual-national then of course you'd want to reject the non-American bit.
Funnily enough, everyone else thinks it's jingoistic nonsense.
P.S. My G.F. is dual national (IRE/US) which is why I know this.
Hagbard ... it's been a long time.,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:55,
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Then why is it so difficultto travel to Britain and get a job?
( Scoopzilla http://www.slapwatch.com now get to fuck,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 17:57,
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What?You appear to have missed the point of that post entirely ...
( Hagbard ... it's been a long time.,
Mon 6 Oct 2003, 18:00,
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America is not "the world".Being an American, I assure you that this is a huge stretch... Americans might have ancestral ties to the rest of the world, but that means nothing in the big picture. I'd even hesitate to call the UN 'the world'. Granted, Hollywood has helped infiltrate American culture and ideals into the rest of the world, but we can't claim to be representative.
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Fri 10 Oct 2003, 18:29,
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