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And there was me just emailing you

saying what a godsend b3ta is on a pissed Friday night.

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pabulum, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 20:05, archived)

Getting a shag

would be better though!!
That's it.
Game over.
I've gone into smut land.
Stop right there.
More vodka.
Less thinking.

(Nacho, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 20:12, archived)

Where's the boyfriend

with the mask for a face that you posted earlier? Is he not keeping you warm?

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pabulum, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 20:16, archived)

Nah, he's

out and about somewhere.
Dunno where.
I don't care - I'm in Tron Land

(Nacho, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 20:20, archived)

I know mate

it's a godsend to me too. this is my baby, although I am not the only parent, and we achieved everything we meant to achieve and far more. Unfortunately there is no money in it and we use a huge amount of bandwidth, so we will soon have the plug pulled on us. I have hundreds of thousands of loyal users, no job and no money. Go figure. Between b3ta and rathergood, which have grown as mutually dependent entities, there are literally millions of users, but no revenue, and these days no revenue means it doesn't matter shit if you're among the best there are in the world at what you do if it doesn't make money. I give up, they've fucked me. I am a victim of a virulent media recession to which I thought I was immune. Fuckers. I'm skint. Got 10p for a cup of tea?

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crab_bloke), Fri 22 Feb 2002, 20:16, archived)

If I gave you tuppence,

would you feed the birds, or
buy paper and string for your own set of wings?

(Nacho, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 20:19, archived)

There have to be other ways

to keep something like this going, without having to resort to fucking adverts plastered all over everything. As I'm sure you've discovered yourself, as soon as the sponsors move in, they call the shots. I'd subscribe to b3ta, pay a small monthly fee to keep it going. It's a rare entity, and really deserves to survive.

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pabulum, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 20:24, archived)

It's still snowing

and I just poured my last glass

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pabulum, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 20:31, archived)

That's really fucking great mate

but I fear you're in a minority. The pay for use model wold fix the situation, but we'd feel very weird about trying to implement it, and there's always the worry that the natural attrition that would kill the essence of what we've created, which is essentially an elite collecitve of the best creatives out there, doing shit because it's fun rather than because it has commercial value. I don't know- maybe that's the best way to go, but the pay for use model is so difficult to make work. There's long long discussions about the psychology of this which would probably be beter held off-list.

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crab_bloke), Fri 22 Feb 2002, 20:43, archived)

And off-pished too probably

Time for bed. G'night from snowy Glasgow

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pabulum, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 20:56, archived)

noooooo!!!!1

say it aint soo!! Ive just seen a polar bear juggle penguins - where else will i get to see such wonderfull things?? how much bandwith are you using and how much do you need!!?!?!?!?!!?!?

(scabby dog, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 20:36, archived)

Lots

and lots. This will become a proper serious issue soon enough. maybe we should just not worry about it right now.

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crab_bloke), Fri 22 Feb 2002, 21:01, archived)

well

i know i would one of those in the minority who would be interested in chipping in to help - its costing me a bit for all my domains but i dont get any traffic so bandwith is not an issue for me but i know where youre coming from - B3ta is too good to go away - why dont all interested parties get together over a drink and we can all bash some ideas about while getting drunk? so, when you all coming to Brighton for drinks then? : )

(scabby dog, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 21:09, archived)

If I buy a crab shirt

will you not let rathergood die?

(thellama73, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 21:18, archived)

I'd give you a fiver...

...however, I know you'd only spend it buying fags and booze for underaged marmots.

Perhaps trying to push merchandise more? A mug a day could keep the bailiffs away. Well, a thousand mugs at 0.001% comission. It's amazing you've managed to keep going this long without going into ads/subs.
Perhaps organising a Bitch-Aid style fundraiser? Or, last resort, a diaspora of the whole B3ta community onto seperate spaces - using free messageboards (if any still exist), cheap/free webspace, perhaps even turning B3ta into some kind of Web-Ring type thing, spreading the content over several people's Blogs, turning B3ta.com into nothing more than a redirection hub(pretty much what it serves as now though I s'pose). Hell, I wish I could just give you my webspace, but I doubt 30M would be much use to this monster.

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grinfish redux I can remember when all this were eels, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 20:53, archived)

For example:

If this didn't sell well in the net-enabled student community, what would?

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grinfish redux I can remember when all this were eels, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 21:20, archived)

Waaaagh!

It's falling over the edge!

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grinfish redux I can remember when all this were eels, Fri 22 Feb 2002, 21:24, archived)