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# The Orcs
actually were in Lord of the Rings, but only in passing - when the party is walking through the forests outside Hobbiton they come across them.

One thing I think they probably should have done / should do is make a separate film of the Hobbit - it gives a much-needed description of how the One Ring came to be and how it was discovered. Also introduces Gollum and the ancestors of the ring bearers.
(wasted industry, Thu 22 Jan 2004, 10:55, archived)
# They deal with
that in the films.
(I helped save b3ta! bovine I'm so old, even my old is old, Thu 22 Jan 2004, 11:03, archived)
# Weren't they
trolls?
(I helped save b3ta! Waldo Dobbs was the new black, Thu 22 Jan 2004, 11:06, archived)
# You know...
I think you might be right. Been a while since I read the Hobbit.
(wasted industry, Thu 22 Jan 2004, 11:07, archived)
# I've only read LOTR up to the point
Just after the centinal in the forrest, Lord Dumberdill (or something like that), and from what I gathered, the whole book is 3ed-person, but if bilbo isn't there, then it doesn't explain it.

They got around that in the films by showing parts without him.

I think the director is trying to get rights to another film, but the rummor is that it won't be The Hobit. This'll be done after he does King Kong.
(I helped save b3ta! G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 22 Jan 2004, 11:08, archived)
# The Hobbit
doesn't do that - the history of the ring gets told in Fellowship of the Ring.

There's no mention of Bilbo's ring being the One Ring in The Hobbit. Because, at that point, Tolkien wasn't planning on writing more about Middle Earth.
(I helped save b3ta! Ijon Tichy, Thu 22 Jan 2004, 11:09, archived)