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# I think they
are one and the same.

If not that, then just seperate facets of a single pan-dimensional entity which protrude into our dimension in the form of curious images
(I helped save b3ta! The Neville What what what, Wed 19 May 2004, 20:40, archived)
#
oooooh meta-physical....
(Phil Febuggure, Wed 19 May 2004, 20:40, archived)
# no
oooooh b3ta-physical
(emptyspace, Wed 19 May 2004, 20:48, archived)