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# In due course
if necessary.
Probably they'll all just reform themselves.
Egypt is going to start allowing proper elections for the first time, I hear.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 6:44, archived)
# Yes indeed.
At the moment, the biggest immediate threat takes priority.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 6:45, archived)
# This is truly sickening.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 6:56, archived)
# Defending yourself is sickening?
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 7:03, archived)
# The idea that America is the nanny of the world is sickening.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 7:05, archived)
# I just want to know who they think gave them the authority to do that
the supporters of the movement usually say one of two things

#1 Might makes Right!! - (but i think that's the wrong way around)

#2 God did!! - (i don't know what to say to these people, but i feel some pity for them)
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 7:08, archived)
# You would prtefer the USSR maybe?
Or Nazi Germany, or the Ayatollahs?

It's a hell of a lot better than the alternative. Besides, it isn't just the USA, it's all of us democratic/capitalist/liberal countries.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 7:09, archived)
# Meddling
Gah, it just winds me up something rotten.

The US is being run by a bunch of fucking meddlers. The stated goal of the currently selected ones is to meddle as much as possible in other countries, to benefit the USA's peace and prosperity as much as possible.

We must never forget this: The Iraq war was sold to us, the public, as a threat to our existance. We were told it was all about Iraq's imminent threat to us; not its neighbours, not its people, but us in the UK and the USA. It was never sold to us as a humanitarian mission. It was never about "spreading democracy". It was all about those Weapons of Mass Destruction - the ones that the USians, having invaded and conquered a sovereign country, have now completely given up finding. There are no "WMD". Iraq was not a threat. They lied through their teeth to get acceptance for their war, the war they'd wanted back in 1998 (and probably earlier).

There have been many regimes, movements and ideologies in history. Most burn themselves out. You can't defend a bad ideology by saying "look over here! This one's worse!". It doesn't work like that.

If you want to know what the future will be, look back to the British Empire. We pulled some dirty shit. We oppressed the USians so badly, they turned into exploitative, gun-toting crackpots that exploit countries for their own ends, installing dictators (Saddam, Pinochet, Noriega, etc.), taking over countries to suit their own ends. What a legacy.

Personally, I want each country to individually solve its own political problems. If there are political crises, countries should work together, not threaten to blow each other up. Powerful countries should offer help, not impose it. If they want to appear charitable, they should offer help to all oppressed people, not just the ones that, if they won their conflict, would turn a country's position to the advantage of the benefactors.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 9:27, archived)