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and how many times is 911 mentioned as justification each time another civil libertiy hits the shit

rearrange the sentence:

HItler down Reishtag burned his own to gain power

(Betty Bo Bibster, Tue 3 May 2005, 17:17, archived)
# power down his own Reichstag to gain burned Hitler
(I helped save b3ta! dingochutney *parp*, Tue 3 May 2005, 17:19, archived)
# is that like the Reichstag?


power down Reichstag to gain his own burned Hitler
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 3 May 2005, 17:20, archived)
# Could be serious mindpiss there...
(I helped save b3ta! dingochutney *parp*, Tue 3 May 2005, 17:21, archived)
# I wish *eyelash fluttery*
I just copied you
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 3 May 2005, 17:22, archived)
# *funny tickly feeling in nether parts*
gosh!
(I helped save b3ta! dingochutney *parp*, Tue 3 May 2005, 17:23, archived)
#
kind of... only spelt by a thick bint like me
(Betty Bo Bibster, Tue 3 May 2005, 17:22, archived)
# awwww
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Tue 3 May 2005, 17:23, archived)
# Yep
Many Americans consider themselves free, but I read this a few days ago:

Secrecy is the cornerstone of all tyranny. Not force, but secrecy...censorship. When any government, or any church, for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, "This you may not read, this you must not see, this you are forbidden to know," the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives. Mightily little force is needed to control a man who has been hoodwinked; Contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything. You cannot conquer a free man; The most you can do is kill him. - Robert A. Heinlein

Made me think
(Scoobs, Tue 3 May 2005, 17:21, archived)
# Read 1984
You may think differently about that last bit.
(I helped save b3ta! dingochutney *parp*, Tue 3 May 2005, 17:22, archived)
# I have read it - quite a while ago
I remember there being quite a lot of secrecy surrounding Big Brother.

Edit: And you could argue he does not have a free mind.

But I suppose you're right. If only one person sees the truth, there's not a lot he can do about it.
(Scoobs, Tue 3 May 2005, 17:26, archived)