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# I had a four frame thing which was much better but have lost it
start with a blank very dark colour, but not black, and then use and dodge and burn...

It's difficult to trace when doing that, so I plain don't bother
(, Sat 11 Jun 2005, 0:12, archived)
# The results
are great. WOO to you. I only dream of doing stuff like that.
(, Sat 11 Jun 2005, 0:15, archived)
# thank you
it's not that hard
(, Sat 11 Jun 2005, 0:24, archived)
# and it's a cold day
i've heard it all before
(, Sat 11 Jun 2005, 0:38, archived)