The former.I found this: www.defamer.com/hollywood/michael-richards/kramers-new-racist-material-not-exactly-a-hit-at-the-laugh-factory-216093.php
It's the Kramer thing.
I'm not sure, it goes down really badly, but I think he was trying to shock. i think they wouldn't shut up so he was deliberately offensive in a 'yeah, well you aren't the only one who can be a cunt' sort of way, but I was amazed at the way the black guy shouts 'white man' and 'cracker-ass' and nobody sees the irony.
(It's the Kramer thing.
I'm not sure, it goes down really badly, but I think he was trying to shock. i think they wouldn't shut up so he was deliberately offensive in a 'yeah, well you aren't the only one who can be a cunt' sort of way, but I was amazed at the way the black guy shouts 'white man' and 'cracker-ass' and nobody sees the irony.
LordManley twitter.com/LordManley,
Mon 20 Nov 2006, 23:49,
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I think there is a still a lot of guilt in amerika's pyscheinstances like this make it markedly obvious
g'night kids
M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!,
Mon 20 Nov 2006, 23:53,
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Yes,There seems to be a situation where saying 'Nigger' is wrong yet actual racism is not.
Discriminating is commonplace, but the N word is taboo beyond all else.
Where's our resident mixed race relationship expert?
(Discriminating is commonplace, but the N word is taboo beyond all else.
Where's our resident mixed race relationship expert?
LordManley twitter.com/LordManley,
Tue 21 Nov 2006, 0:06,
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Rather,What is his take on this whole thing - Was it too much or was it obviously parody?
it looked like 'look how offensive I can be' rather than anything else, but then I have the disadvantage of not being able to judge this from the POV of someone who might be on the wrong end of racial hatred.
Not that I think it is a disadvantage in life, just in this circumstance.
I do hate the way it's okay for the black guy to call the white guy a cracker ass though. Also the whole black pride and 'nigga' thing.
It's all a little odd over that side of the pond, isn't it?
(it looked like 'look how offensive I can be' rather than anything else, but then I have the disadvantage of not being able to judge this from the POV of someone who might be on the wrong end of racial hatred.
Not that I think it is a disadvantage in life, just in this circumstance.
I do hate the way it's okay for the black guy to call the white guy a cracker ass though. Also the whole black pride and 'nigga' thing.
It's all a little odd over that side of the pond, isn't it?
LordManley twitter.com/LordManley,
Tue 21 Nov 2006, 0:13,
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I would agree completelywhy is one form of racism OK, and another so utterly wrong that you get publicly flogged and crucified for the slightest mention?
Beats me.
(Beats me.
fuckyouTtssattsr you cunt,
Tue 21 Nov 2006, 0:19,
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I suppose that there is something to be said for the fact thatthe cracker-asses weren't being hanged from trees by the niggers, rather the other way around.
I think that we have reached a point in the South West (and I recognise that it is not the same in the North of England) where colour is of no more interest than hair colour. Within my group of friends and acquaintances, with one exception, we make jokes about the black chaps' skin tone in the same way as about the ginger bloke's hair or Benji's glasses.
I think it is all healthy and has grown from the fact that we are all friends and we don't really see the problem.
If Eddie (a randomly chosen black acquaintance - he is African and a very nice chap, although, being African, his accent becomes indecipherable when he is pissed) was allowed to take the piss out of me for my being a long haired idiot, yet there was some taboo whereby I couldn't laugh at him when he got hit by the cyclist who genuinely didn't see him in the dark, it'd be odd.
We are all friends and that is all there is to it.
I am rambling, but I feel that the whole white pride / black pride / positive discrimination thing is arse. I have friends who are white and friends who are black and, equally, there are white and black people who I don't get on with and I don't have to feel guilt because I don't happen to like a black chap I know.
Americans are very silly.
(I think that we have reached a point in the South West (and I recognise that it is not the same in the North of England) where colour is of no more interest than hair colour. Within my group of friends and acquaintances, with one exception, we make jokes about the black chaps' skin tone in the same way as about the ginger bloke's hair or Benji's glasses.
I think it is all healthy and has grown from the fact that we are all friends and we don't really see the problem.
If Eddie (a randomly chosen black acquaintance - he is African and a very nice chap, although, being African, his accent becomes indecipherable when he is pissed) was allowed to take the piss out of me for my being a long haired idiot, yet there was some taboo whereby I couldn't laugh at him when he got hit by the cyclist who genuinely didn't see him in the dark, it'd be odd.
We are all friends and that is all there is to it.
I am rambling, but I feel that the whole white pride / black pride / positive discrimination thing is arse. I have friends who are white and friends who are black and, equally, there are white and black people who I don't get on with and I don't have to feel guilt because I don't happen to like a black chap I know.
Americans are very silly.
LordManley twitter.com/LordManley,
Tue 21 Nov 2006, 0:30,
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Well fuck me,lots of words and I'm not sure it says anything at all.
( LordManley twitter.com/LordManley,
Tue 21 Nov 2006, 0:33,
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indeed. and how!/ac
And on that bombshell - time for bed ;)
night b3ta!
(And on that bombshell - time for bed ;)
night b3ta!
fuckyouTtssattsr you cunt,
Tue 21 Nov 2006, 0:34,
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I just found this reply open in my browserI have no idea what i am replying to, beyond:
^ this
very much so.
So I'll settle for 'probably'.
(^ this
very much so.
So I'll settle for 'probably'.
LordManley twitter.com/LordManley,
Tue 21 Nov 2006, 0:08,
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