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# depends
you see if you want to develop for the PS3 you're gonna have to start from scratch
and it wont be cheap

whereas all those development tools and programs that teams have written for
the gamecube can be used for the Wii
meaning, you can get straight to making games, not tools

everyone thought the PSP would beat the DS
you can never tell in the games industry
(I helped save b3ta! Ironman tetsuo Back once again with the renegade mastah!, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 14:44, archived)
# hahahaha I love it how you are pretty much the sole voice of the Wii on b3ta
(I helped save b3ta! mugatu, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 14:46, archived)
# He is right
Allot of next-gen game makers have already boycotted the PS3 because it will cost a fuckload more than it should to make games for it.

Also, it will rawk.
(I helped save b3ta! Cashy, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 14:51, archived)
# the Wii isn't even a next gen console. It's virtually a side-step from the Game Cube.
(I helped save b3ta! mugatu, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 14:54, archived)
# This is a dirty lie
Dont be fooled by the shit looks of the new Zelda game, awesome it may be, but the graphics were actually designed for the cube. The raw power is yet to be unleashed
(I helped save b3ta! Cashy, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 14:57, archived)
# hahaha we'll see.
(I helped save b3ta! mugatu, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 14:59, archived)
# The power of the Wii is officially 10% that of the 360
seriously, this is fact. That said, its more powerful than the PS2 which is still fucking awesome - kingdom hearts 2 is incredible - so I wouldn't worry tooooooo much (but its an easy target for Next Gen owners)
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:02, archived)
# yes but tha's graphics
and there is only so many times i can play the same game
over and over just because it's been polished a bit harder

i want NEW games, and NEW ways of playing
not just shinier first person shooters
although, i still want them too

it's just don't judge things by graphics
i now point your attention to Rise of the Robots :)
(I helped save b3ta! Ironman tetsuo Back once again with the renegade mastah!, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:05, archived)
# Wii has neither ;)
(I helped save b3ta! mugatu, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:06, archived)
# Yes yes yes yes
Actually all you fuckbuckets, head over to www.5punk.co.uk if you want to hear the official voice of the b3ta gaming communities voice on the matter
(I helped save b3ta! Cashy, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:08, archived)
# its processing power, graphics, etc
so you'll run in to trouble with stuff like physics simulation and various other gameplay related bits too.

My only concern with the Wii is that the controller will make it difficult to play more established game styles, i.e. a standard platform. You don't want to always be flicking your arm in the air whenever you need to jump.

I'm, yet to actually play on one, so I'll reserve judgement, but most things to me point to it being a secondary console that you have next to your PS3 or 360 for the "proper" gaming ;)
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:09, archived)
# There is a 'normal' controller for it too....
(I helped save b3ta! Cashy, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:13, archived)
# i just want gaming to change
not to forget it's roots but to accept new ones

not everyone wants to shoot things
not all of us want gaming to have it's 13 year old boy image anymore

i want it to advance, to get to the point where it's accepted by the masses
and then we will start getting games you never thought possible
and it wont just be about leaves on trees you can actually shoot holes through......
(I helped save b3ta! Ironman tetsuo Back once again with the renegade mastah!, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:15, archived)
# HOLES IN TREES?!?!
Good god man! This will be the greatest thing in gaming since the vending machine that actualy gave out cans!
(I helped save b3ta! Cashy, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:17, archived)
# but the Wii is clearly aimed at the younger end of the video game market
(I helped save b3ta! mugatu, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:20, archived)
# ha ha!
don't tell anyone i've pre-ordered a PS3 then!
:D

(I helped save b3ta! Ironman tetsuo Back once again with the renegade mastah!, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 14:53, archived)
# But games aren't written on a magical console making device
they're all done on PC then converted to XBox, PS or Nintendo device. While the Sony dev kit has always born the brunt of the abuse in games studios it is actually the Nintendo stuff that is a nightmare to produce for due to the big N's ridiculously high charges and exclusivity.

PS3 isn't starting from scratch at all, its a PS1 and PS2 at core, and I think you'll probably see that as a load of third rate cheapo early titles will just be PS2 games with the extra texture passes thrown in and Anti aliasing switched on.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 14:54, archived)
# Also, will GTA IV be coming out on the Wii? Nope.
That fact alone would make me get a PS3.
(I helped save b3ta! mugatu, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 14:56, archived)
# ^This
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 14:58, archived)
# no no no
it can't even run PS1 games at the moment
they're waiting for a patch to amend this

it also cannot up or downscale resolutions
so if you have a 720hd telly and you play a 1080hd game
it will be shown in 480 (normal tv res)

and the PS3s Cell chip is manufactured entirely by SONY
it doesn't run anything like a PC chip

a good quote from Lanning (maker of Abe) is
we want to make a great dish, we have the ingredients
but no pots or pans or even cutlery
instead of making tasty food, everyones busy making saucepans

every next gen game so far is a this gen game with some
graphical tweaks

it will be at least a year untill the 3rd generation games even
start to use the power of the new consoles

as a fact
the best console to own now and for the next year?
it's the PS2
(I helped save b3ta! Ironman tetsuo Back once again with the renegade mastah!, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:01, archived)
# This man know
Just cast your mind back to the original PS2 and xbox games. Now they were ugly
(I helped save b3ta! Cashy, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:04, archived)
# I agree with the PS2 for sure
although I would take it down to 9 months ;)
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:05, archived)
# PS2 is still the shiznit
Although I wish they would stop making games that get really choppy on the frame rate.
(I helped save b3ta! mugatu, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:08, archived)
# There is no rule saying all the games will require you waving a remote about like a loon
It still has all the usual buttons if making a straightforward port is your bag. Personally i think its only a matter of time before the PS3 makes a remote you can wiggle around like a loon
(I helped save b3ta! Cashy, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:02, archived)
# the PS3 one is wireless
so you can loon-wiggle it to your heart's content.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:09, archived)
# er, are you not aware of the sixaxis controller?
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:10, archived)
# it just feels movement though
once you stop moving it has no effect.
whereas the wii controler not only picks up on movement but also position

and they had to remove the rumble pack to make it work
and it just makes the thing feel too light and airy
(I helped save b3ta! Ironman tetsuo Back once again with the renegade mastah!, Thu 23 Nov 2006, 15:19, archived)