Fisking!1. PCs are easier to upgrade, and the parts are cheaper
Never felt the need to upgrade my Mac - does everything I want just fine.
2. PCs come with a mouse with 2 buttons
Er... you can use a two-button/wheel mouse perfectly well on a Mac and do all the fun things they do on Windows PCs.
3. You can get more and better games on PCs
Er, right. Well, that's a great case for Windows PCs as gaming machines. I have a console for that...
4. There's an EJECT button next to the CD drive on PCs
As there is on the Mac I'm currently using (MacBook...)
5. Windows makes much more sense than OSX (yes I know it was ripped off the old Apple O/S)
Rubbish. OSX is far more intuitive, and having had to tech support in-laws through the hell of both XP and Vista, Windows is far from easy to use.
6. PCs can now do everything that Macs used to specialise in, music, graphic design etc..
Which makes them... no worse than Macs!
7. Mac owners are like some kind of religious sect, so ner
Whereas Windows is more like a fascist regime, forcing you all to conform (while letting you *think* you're more free because the spoddier ones among you can ram home some flashy graphics card... NEWSFLASH you're stuck in Bill Gates hell, whichever vendor's PC you buy!)
Boring debate, though - can't both sides just accept there are pros and cons? Personally, having used DOS, W2.1, W95, OS8, OS9, WXP, Linux and Vista, I have to say I think OSX is by far the best OS I've used...
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Tue 10 Apr 2007, 17:39,
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Never felt the need to upgrade my Mac - does everything I want just fine.
2. PCs come with a mouse with 2 buttons
Er... you can use a two-button/wheel mouse perfectly well on a Mac and do all the fun things they do on Windows PCs.
3. You can get more and better games on PCs
Er, right. Well, that's a great case for Windows PCs as gaming machines. I have a console for that...
4. There's an EJECT button next to the CD drive on PCs
As there is on the Mac I'm currently using (MacBook...)
5. Windows makes much more sense than OSX (yes I know it was ripped off the old Apple O/S)
Rubbish. OSX is far more intuitive, and having had to tech support in-laws through the hell of both XP and Vista, Windows is far from easy to use.
6. PCs can now do everything that Macs used to specialise in, music, graphic design etc..
Which makes them... no worse than Macs!
7. Mac owners are like some kind of religious sect, so ner
Whereas Windows is more like a fascist regime, forcing you all to conform (while letting you *think* you're more free because the spoddier ones among you can ram home some flashy graphics card... NEWSFLASH you're stuck in Bill Gates hell, whichever vendor's PC you buy!)
Boring debate, though - can't both sides just accept there are pros and cons? Personally, having used DOS, W2.1, W95, OS8, OS9, WXP, Linux and Vista, I have to say I think OSX is by far the best OS I've used...
1 - I do. It extends my (already cheaper) investment for much much longer.
2 - You can get. Three words that kill that one.
3 - PCs are the top end gaming rigs, offer modding and are the only real platform for the heavy RPGs and, one close to my heart, racing sims amongst others as well as being my work machine, my modelling machine and so on.
4 - Yes, laptop. Notice that's not a tower.
5 - Windows is much more flexible than OSX. The reason OSX is intuitive is because it's idiot-proofed.
6 - Better. See the upgrading issue and other posts, not to mention the fact you've got a larger software base.
7 - Erm, yeah... right. Aside from the fact that makes no sense and that we can use UNIX and all the confusing Linux variants and would be able to use OSX if Apple didn't get law-suit happy every time someone ported it.
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Tue 10 Apr 2007, 17:44,
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2 - You can get. Three words that kill that one.
3 - PCs are the top end gaming rigs, offer modding and are the only real platform for the heavy RPGs and, one close to my heart, racing sims amongst others as well as being my work machine, my modelling machine and so on.
4 - Yes, laptop. Notice that's not a tower.
5 - Windows is much more flexible than OSX. The reason OSX is intuitive is because it's idiot-proofed.
6 - Better. See the upgrading issue and other posts, not to mention the fact you've got a larger software base.
7 - Erm, yeah... right. Aside from the fact that makes no sense and that we can use UNIX and all the confusing Linux variants and would be able to use OSX if Apple didn't get law-suit happy every time someone ported it.
And idiot-proofing is a bad thing?Meh - horses for courses. Delighted you like playing games that much. I like not having my machine pop up stupid messages about upgrading the OS every time I switch on, nag me about viruses (oh, I forgot the virus thing...), deciding that the settings that I want need to be changed back to the settings it wants every time I re-boot, asking me to manually configure stuff it should automatically configure and automatically configure stuff I want to control, taking ages to load lots of things I don't really want into a system tray (then making it hard for me to disable them)... could go on... and on... My Mac's much more passive, easier to use and less hassle.
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Tue 10 Apr 2007, 17:53,
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All those things you listedUpdate: I turned off automatic update. Not hard.
Viruses: Only ever had one in my entire 12 years of PC ownership. One. Took me 15 minutes to get rid of too with no data loss.
Settings: That's bollocks.
Automatic config: Tell it not to. I've never had Windows hijack my own settings.
Ages to load things: Bullshit plain and simple.
System tray: Click on the top of it and pull it down. Not complicated shit.
Basically what you're telling me is you don't have the slightest clue so you gave up.
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Tue 10 Apr 2007, 17:56,
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Viruses: Only ever had one in my entire 12 years of PC ownership. One. Took me 15 minutes to get rid of too with no data loss.
Settings: That's bollocks.
Automatic config: Tell it not to. I've never had Windows hijack my own settings.
Ages to load things: Bullshit plain and simple.
System tray: Click on the top of it and pull it down. Not complicated shit.
Basically what you're telling me is you don't have the slightest clue so you gave up.
Ah, right, so I'm just lying?Obviously I'm making up my experiences with Windows machines. Even with automatic updates switched off, I get nagging messages ("you've turned off automatic updates! Your machine is at risk!"), my mother-in-law's XP laptop always changes the settings for wireless access (ironically, it decides to forget it's been set to "allow Windows to configure network access" or whatever it says) and while it allowed me to disable some startup items, it demands I reinstate them before I can reboot. Doubtless some IT spod will tell me how to fix all these thing, by surprisingly, my mother-in-law doesn't have a sysadmin in her employ. Bill Gates sells the means of using consumer electronics, but then makes it damned difficult to use them as you want if you happen to be just a consumer.
That's the one thing those crappy Mitchell and Webb ads got right. The MacBook worked out of the box - perfectly. Windows laptop? Literally hours of arsing around and it still isn't right. Consumer electronics my arse!
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Tue 10 Apr 2007, 18:15,
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That's the one thing those crappy Mitchell and Webb ads got right. The MacBook worked out of the box - perfectly. Windows laptop? Literally hours of arsing around and it still isn't right. Consumer electronics my arse!
MACMAN1.) I shoved an extra 1.5 GB in my macbook, it were dead easy.
2.) My mac mouse has 5 buttons.
3.) True
4.) I have an eject button on my keyboard
5.) Windows is a bloody nightmare
6.) Macs can now also be PC's
7.) True, they are known as Fanboys, see also PC fanboys, XBOX360 fanboys etc
Does it really matter what make of computer you use?
PS3's rule....discuss
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Tue 10 Apr 2007, 18:44,
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2.) My mac mouse has 5 buttons.
3.) True
4.) I have an eject button on my keyboard
5.) Windows is a bloody nightmare
6.) Macs can now also be PC's
7.) True, they are known as Fanboys, see also PC fanboys, XBOX360 fanboys etc
Does it really matter what make of computer you use?
PS3's rule....discuss