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# before?
(I helped save b3ta! Damocles wants no part of your debauchery, Mon 16 Jul 2007, 17:23, archived)
# true. OK, forget everything I said. We've been doomed for ages now
(I helped save b3ta! M3Essential and The Essentials. LIVE!, Mon 16 Jul 2007, 17:27, archived)