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# It'd be worth every penny of 272k
/actually, sarcasm aside, they're rather nice :) never ask anyone what they'd pay for them, work yourself out total cost of materials,
and then the time in hours it takes to make them, then decide on your profit margin and there you go.
Visited a big craft fair yesterday and the difference in mark ups and pricing on a variety of similar products was amazing
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 17:58, archived)
# i went to a craft fair once but i had to go home after i knocked over a windchime stand
i was seven at the time but i still hear those chimes on cold nights
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:03, archived)
# There was a big one at Sandringham yesterday, all manner of tat was on display
I was particulalrly fond of the bloke selling 'Quillows' - half quilt, half pillow for around £120 a throw
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:05, archived)
# ^^^^this
The biggest mistake people make is to leave their own time out of the equation. Pay yourself something more than the NMW and add on a tenner or so for costs - you used electricity and paid rent while you made this.

It's not really my kind of thing but it looks good and you should be able to shift some. I'd guess you're looking at a young 'studenty' sort of market so price accordingly
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:17, archived)
# quite so, I do some freelance calligraphy for various projects
and I always used to end up pricing myself down because of the time it takes. Eventually, I thought 'sod this' and whacked it up to full price, plus 20%,
and I take probably double the commissions I used to take
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:26, archived)
# I was hoping
for more of an upscale market...

On an hourly rate, charging $200 for it puts us both at about $8/hour, I would guess. Not terrible, but not great. Might be able to do them faster as we get better at them, though.

We did this one as a Christmas present for my parents. We've got another with a pattern like a Native American design of a bird that's almost done, but that one will probably be a one-off as it's a lot more intricate in terms of the cut stained glass. (It's for my girlfriend's sister.)

Just playing with the idea at this point- I think we need to make a few more to really get a better feel for it.
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:27, archived)
# may pay to do one or two of the different designs, and set up a small website/blog with a carefully set up series of pictures and write up, explaining them
use words like 'authentic', 'natural', detailed' etc etc, and tout them that way with an enquiries email.
It immediately makes them more saleable overseas and elsewhere, and the write-up/pictures will make them more 'sellable'.
You can then do them on a basis which is 'made to order'.

if you get several orders at once, you can amend write up etc to give minimum order time required.

try and get the website advertised locally and do a few cards etc to put in craft places/anywhere where money tends to gather.
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:30, archived)
# Thanks!
Very nice tips! I shall do so this coming week.

We had planned on doing several different patterns- the one I posted, a sunset, a gothic arch and an art deco type of geometric pattern. Once we get a pattern to work, I can photocopy it on 11x17 paper for templates and then spend a day producing fronts- the cheapest part, to be honest- and assemble the boxes as needed.

A website would be a good idea!
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:36, archived)
# a few photos showing the process up the the end result, and a nice set of final pictures, designs etc all looks good
decent write up, few sugegstions for those who browse - 'ideal present for XXXXX' etc etc, and then an enquiries form.

Could be good, hope it works out :)
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:38, archived)
# Good advice, sir.
I hope you don't mind me eavesdropping?
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 18:42, archived)
# hehe, not at all sir :)
/he'll have a heart attack when I put in my invoice for the advice ;)
(, Mon 26 Nov 2007, 19:04, archived)