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# Found objects as an artform is fucking useless.
I was in a gallery about a year ago and one of the artists was selling a piece called 'dumpster 4' (there was a number 4 in the dumpster where he found the stuff), and it was 20 showerheads painted yellow.

She spent half a fucking hour talking about how he had found abandoned objects and turned them into art by 'gathering them together'. I had three issues with this:

1. There was no point - what is he trying to provoke/invoke?

2. The dumpster had gathered all those objects before he got there,

3. It was just a bunch of fucking showerheads painted yellow. For $20k.

(, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 5:16, archived)
# I've heard you talk about this before
and I think I stole the example and used it as part of a letter to The Times.
(, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 5:19, archived)
# Awesome.
(, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 5:20, archived)
# Not incorrect, just over-priced.
(, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 5:20, archived)
# I'd pay cost price, if I had a use for twenty yellow showerheads.
(, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 5:25, archived)
# Not the point. And I know you understand that well.
We both love Doc's work. Any artist with
a good portfolio of works, can, and should
be able to do the same. You saw the work
first hand, it sounds to me liek the person
may have failed it. So I would accept your
judgment in the showerhead's case.
(, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 5:32, archived)
# The only reason that this example sticks in my mind
is because I saw someone run over to it and buy it after the most retarded artspeech I had heard. And it was probably a good investment.
(, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 5:48, archived)
# Could be so.
A mid-line, to low work, by a spectacular
artist can often be more valuable.
(, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 5:57, archived)
# Right.
So any painting is worth the price of the paint plus the price of the canvas?
(, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 5:55, archived)
# If it's all one colour, yes.
(, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 5:59, archived)
# As a minimum, YES.
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(, Wed 26 Dec 2007, 6:00, archived)