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# i never liked metal gear.
(I helped save b3ta! lordsaccharine b3taing is well retro mate, Tue 1 Jul 2008, 9:57, archived)
# Very much this. Fucking tedious.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Tue 1 Jul 2008, 10:06, archived)
# It (Metal Gear Solid, anyway) had very few of the best game elements:
Very little twitch.

Very little beauty.

Very little feeling of exploration.

No real surprises (aside from the ouch you're dead variety).

Too many games are just movies you're made to press buttons to watch.
Crappy movies at that.

(Smoked Oysters Yes, magick helmet! And I will give you a sample!, Tue 1 Jul 2008, 10:08, archived)
# I just thought it was pretty railroaded
and i HATED the control system.

Also i like more action, not that i don't like to think, just that i also like to kill, a lot.
(I helped save b3ta! lordsaccharine b3taing is well retro mate, Tue 1 Jul 2008, 10:12, archived)
# I liked the first one
until I got to a boss who I killed with a smigden of health left and the cunt came back to life and killed me
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Tue 1 Jul 2008, 10:13, archived)