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# We can't take for granted that the laws of Physics are constant and always have been.
Much as I find them hard to believe in, Science can't disprove most miracles.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 4 Sep 2008, 10:52, archived)
# But there are no such things as miracles
its only stories in a book and therefore nothing to be disproved.
(I helped save b3ta! Victor Meldrew, Thu 4 Sep 2008, 10:54, archived)
# How do you know there's no such thing as miracles?
There's a limit to what Science can prove.
I don't believe in them either, but I'd consider it arrogant to say there's no possibility of them ever having happened.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 4 Sep 2008, 10:57, archived)
# I'm not being arrogant as i can't prove anything either, being only a humble b3tan
but miracles as in the biblical sense are surely nonsense. Miracles as in someone surviving a terrible illness (when they really shouldn't) exist of course, but then its not a real miracle is it?
(I helped save b3ta! Victor Meldrew, Thu 4 Sep 2008, 11:00, archived)
# They're probably nonsense, sure.
And there's probably some rational explanation for why one person survives when others don't.
But it's impossible to be certain about either.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 4 Sep 2008, 11:03, archived)
# True
*gets off soapbox*
(I helped save b3ta! Victor Meldrew, Thu 4 Sep 2008, 11:05, archived)
# I'll get off mine too.
Sorry, I love this kind of argument.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 4 Sep 2008, 11:09, archived)
# like the 'miracle of childbirth'
yeah - that's never happened before

there ought to be the 'miracle of having a dump'
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Thu 4 Sep 2008, 11:04, archived)
# HAHAHA
I have a miracle dump after ever kebab as in 'its a miracle my guts didnt come out with it'.
(I helped save b3ta! Victor Meldrew, Thu 4 Sep 2008, 11:06, archived)
# But that's not how burden of proof works.
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Thu 4 Sep 2008, 11:10, archived)
# So Science is now in the habit of saying
"I've never seen it happen, therefore it never does"? Noone told me.
Religions tend not to care much about proving things, they go by faith. Science has to prove anything it wants to say.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Thu 4 Sep 2008, 11:14, archived)