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# I believe all religions should be taught equally
and presented truthfully as a belief system. At least then kids would have all the facts without all this secret bias and childish, ill-informed arguing.
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:20, archived)
# "once people believed that old unmarried women/spinsters must be witches
...some people still believe in witches. Here are the facts that led to those beliefs, here is what we've learned since"

Draw your own conclusions.
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:22, archived)
# You speak so much bloody sense it makes my eyes water.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:23, archived)
# :) I try
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:25, archived)
# sensible
but utopian :D
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:27, archived)
# Is 'utopian' really a criticism?
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:28, archived)
# ok
'naive' then.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:30, archived)
# Hahah, that's also fair comment in theory
...but in this particular case it was the former not the latter, you don't know me but you'll just have to take my word for it that I'm far from naive :)
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:32, archived)
# Isn't Naive a town in Brittany?
(I helped save b3ta! Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:34, archived)
# HEY! she's been doing her kegels again recently
That's unfair
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:36, archived)
# Exactly.
But you hope your next gas bill will be reasonable, you dream about winning the lottery!
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:31, archived)
# yes...
but people with influence are rarely even-handed. Everyone has their preconceptions, biases and opinions and people with power tend to push their own beliefs.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:25, archived)
# Religion should not be taught in schools.
Religion is about finding yourself, and discovering your own path.
(I helped save b3ta! JimmerUK Everyone's Favourite Jim, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:25, archived)
# Of course other people's beliefs should be explained in schools.
Not to try and force students into them, but to show them the facts about how others live their lives.
(I helped save b3ta! my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:27, archived)
# I think religion should be taught in schools
as for most kids it's the one informed insight into other religions that they get. To deprive them of that education is pretty much (in my opinion) like giving them a BNP membership at birth.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:27, archived)
# That's not strictly true.
I would say racists inherit their attitudes from their parents and other influential people in their lives. If the parents are racist it's more likely the kids are going to be racist anyway regardless of whether they're taught about other religions in schools.
(I helped save b3ta! JimmerUK Everyone's Favourite Jim, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:31, archived)
# That is then assuming that children do not have the capacity to learn and form their own opinions of the world
If they know nothing else than their racist home teachings, then they are lost.
(I helped save b3ta! Dixipoos Bye Bye Blackbird, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:32, archived)
# Let's put it another way
Religious education isn't a recruiting ground, it seeks to explain other religions to children in an easily digested format (well, mine was) - why are you so against it? Don't you want children to be informed?
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:33, archived)
#
www.b3ta.com/board/8737549
(I helped save b3ta! JimmerUK Everyone's Favourite Jim, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:39, archived)
# Where else would you be in a setting to learn?
It's not just about finding yourself, it's about understanding a massive influence in our world.

Also- you can only choose from the options you know you have.
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:28, archived)
# Ok, I appreciate that.
I was going off on the tangent that science teachers are going to be saying "well kids that's evolution...another opinion is that a god may have made all of this stuff." Which is bollocks.

I'm not really against making kids aware of other faiths and beliefs.
(I helped save b3ta! JimmerUK Everyone's Favourite Jim, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:36, archived)
# I'm actually an athiest
and I consider organised religion to be responsible for a great many evils in our history, and it's far from over.

I just want people to actually be informed, and stop hating what they don't understand, and maybe actually let people make up their mind what they believe without really knowing what they're choosing.
I'm against indoctrination and I don't think a true god (God) would actually object to his people knowing all the facts.

That said, I'm bowing out, this discussion is not one with a conclusion we can all agree on ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:45, archived)
# No that's fine, I think we're pretty much on the same page
It was just "I believe all religions should be taught equally and presented truthfully as a belief system" that threw me, I thought you meant that religions should be taught as opposed to kids being taught about them.

Too deep for a Friday afternoon :)
(I helped save b3ta! JimmerUK Everyone's Favourite Jim, Fri 12 Sep 2008, 16:49, archived)